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RSV Factory
12-27-2010, 04:57 AM
Hey guys!
I have installed the Twinmotorycle's Torque Hammer 2 slip-on exhaust for European models 2008-2010 with small headers, with K&N air filter and their excellent ECM remap.
Hmmm.... Where to start? It's EXACTLY what I wanted. Massive flying power, low torque juice, beautiful sound, aggressive looks, light, compact, quality finish.
Before I start talking about exhaust, I would like to say that I have never experienced such a great costumer care & support. The guys at Twinmotorycles are simply amazing, I asked them million and one question, and they replied with full explanation and patience. Respect.
Now to my "review":
Throttle response:
Perfect! The stock bike had bad throttle reaction, and now, with my tune it is just the way I like it: instant, fast, powerful, you just think of giving a throttle and there it is.
Power & Torque:
Since I have a brand new bike I ride my bike to max. 3500 RPM. But, I couldn't resist so after I warmed it up, I snapped the throttle to cca. 6000 RPM. Man, the bike became a wild animal and initiate warp 9 after 4000 RPM's. @4500 RPM the bike did wheelie all by itself. Haha, what a fun was that! The pull is massive and you can fell BIG torque increase. The feeling of torque is so gooooooodd :). I can say: wow! it's simply amazing.
Bellow 4000 RPM the bike is strong, not nervous (which is very good of course), and combined with previously explained perfect throttle reaction, it makes the bike very practical and makes it ride it intuitively - riding with thoughts, sort of speak.
Sound:
Ah, very deep, quality sound, throughout all the range of RPM's it doesn't lose this quality sound. What I mean by quality is that I know a couple of exhausts which sound like a broken pot, loud, but bad "quality" sound. The Torque Hammer is nice, strong, profound sound,not too loud, although I would like it a bit louder :p
So, the exhaust it self is really nicely done, good welds, it doesn't look cheap, it is very small (almost double than the original), light, I think I saved 2-3 kg's, maybe 4 I don't know - I forgot to measure them as I wanted to ride it a.s.a.p. :p
Conclusion: I am 100% satisfied, and money was well spend, both on product and service from Twinmotorycles.
RSV Factory
12-27-2010, 04:58 AM
Look of Torque Hammer 2:
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7673_20101227003434_L.jpg
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7673_20101227003359_L.jpg
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7673_20101227003419_L.jpg
RSV Factory
12-27-2010, 05:03 AM
The whole package - Torque Hammer 2 exhaust slip-on, K&N air filter, Twinmotorycles ECM remaphttp://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7673_20101227003521_L.jpg
The most important part - Brain of Buell tuned by Twinmotorcycles. My Buell is now the smartest guy in the country. :)
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7673_20101227003555_L.jpg
K&N air filter
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7673_20101227003742_L.jpg
Installation
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7673_20101227003639_L.jpg
Installation continues
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7673_20101227003711_L.jpg
RSV Factory
12-27-2010, 05:06 AM
Comparison with the original exhaust:
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7673_20101227003828_L.jpg
Installed exhaust
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7673_20101227003950_L.jpg
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7673_20101227004112_L.jpg
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7673_20101227004134_L.jpg
redrider
12-27-2010, 06:29 AM
Very nice! but sounds too good to be true. what year bike was this install done on and what was the cost and did you send them your ECM for remap.
RSV Factory
12-27-2010, 07:42 AM
bike is 2009 (model 2010), it was cca. 980,00 € special Christmas price including the shipment (Torque Hammer 2, K&N and remap), and yes I've send them my ECM, and then I got back the whole package.
And believe me, I was surprised as hell when that torque was released. I learned that remaping the ECM is the most important, and (now) I know that these guys do their job excellent, plus, the Torque Hammer is the best for low torque pull (as I learned in my few months research)
See this dyno run:
http://www.dragbike.nl/pictures/pictures%202010/THII/2008STOCKHEADERTorqueHammer2.JPG
Atomicpunk
12-27-2010, 07:48 AM
Looks great. is the bracket for mounting the chin spoiler included? I am interested in hearing a sound clip of that exhaust. Thanks for the pics and review.
RSV Factory
12-27-2010, 08:02 AM
yes, everything is included. you can see it in the picture where there is a complete kit. the longer one is for the right side and smaller one for left side. it is easy installation overall, and you got the mounting instructions.
I will upload some video on youtube soon.
RSV Factory
12-28-2010, 05:29 AM
Here is the sound clip of Torque Hammer. ;) enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rQOwkJN-S8
misternikko
12-28-2010, 06:24 AM
too bad the outlet is ugly as sin. how much u want for your stalker?
Bossanova
12-28-2010, 06:55 AM
The chin fairing brackets and the metal straps on the front and rear of the muffler look kinda Jardineish. Sounds pretty good. Need a drive-by video.
Alfatango1
12-28-2010, 08:27 AM
how much u want for your stalker?Shipping might kill you! I think RSV may be overseas :D
RSV Factory
12-28-2010, 09:41 AM
@misternikko: By outlet you mean black coating? I didn't get it.
And, Stalker... only Stalker I know is S.T.A.L.K.E.R - my best game. ;)
@Alfatango1: yeah I am from Europe.
In summer I will make a drive-by video
edit: yeah I get it, the pipe outlet, haha. Well I like it as it is Mad Max style, not fancy-schmenzy. ;)
misternikko
12-28-2010, 10:56 AM
LOLOL total brain fart i meant stocker and yes u are overseas so o well.
Outlet meaning the pipe that stick out the muffler. I like the drummer one the best but i may be biased lol
thumpin1203
12-28-2010, 11:12 AM
Whoa, look at the chin fairing shake at idle in the video...gotta' fix that... won't last long i'm guessing.
Good looking pipe though, quality work!
BuellerPilot
12-28-2010, 01:54 PM
Whoa, look at the chin fairing shake at idle in the video...gotta' fix that... won't last long i'm guessing.
Ya, WHOA! The early Jardines used to do that too, but they re-designed it. I guess these guys havent figured that out yet.
Drummer, Jardine and Torque Hammer all ahe the same chin mounting, not really an easier way to do it without welding ugly brackets on the muffler, whihc would need thick walls on the muffler.
~Mike.........
Alfatango1
12-28-2010, 03:21 PM
Are you in NL?
RSV Factory
12-28-2010, 08:42 PM
Exactly, I like the earthquake. ;)
It is good connected from all sides, and it will not be a problem as this is only when it is in some range, not idle.
@Alfatango1 - I am from Croatia.
GregoXB
06-04-2013, 06:37 PM
You can buy these from 5-0dro's website now. $795 + shipping and taxes.
Personally IDK why anyone would want to drop that amount of $ on a slip-on.
Based on all my research and dyno'ing my own bike, there is no slip-on that is head and shoulders above any of the others.
Christer
06-04-2013, 11:30 PM
I've got the Torquehammer too and it it is sweeeeeeeeeeeet. Great sound and masses of torque. I like the look of the outlet! :) The Twin Motorcycles guys are also great at what they do and very professional.
50dro
06-05-2013, 12:27 AM
Thanks gregoxb! One small correction though....our prices include shipping within the Continental US and tax is only charged to PA residents.
Our site is www.5-0dro.com (http://www.5-0dro.com)
kbfnail
06-05-2013, 09:08 AM
I too have this exhaust. Very well done and made! Up there Next to KEDA.
rah7777777
09-13-2013, 12:54 AM
Quick question on these torque hammers... I've had a few pipes over the years.
-Special Ops
-Buell race can
-Drummer
How is the sound compared to any of the above? Internet videos are never close to real life as far as the audio goes?
Is it louder or softer then a race can?
I think it's safe to say it softer then a special ops or drummer.
Thanks
50dro
09-13-2013, 01:05 AM
I think it's safe to say it softer then a special ops or drummer.
Agreed!
For the benefit of this thread, I figured I should mention the recent price drop to $600 to your door in the Continental US! [up]
Details HERE! (http://www.5-0dro.com/index.php/specials/twin-motorcycles-buell-xb-torque-hammer-exhaust-detail)
Just bought my first Buell xb9 a couple of months ago. I started reading on this site about them before I purchased one and I believe I'm learning a lot about the bikes. I would like to thank everyone for the info on what to look for by the way. The bike has a junk Jardine on it now which is looking like it could fall apart at any time, and a little loud for me, but runs great. I believe the bike has a lot more to potential. I have been doing a lot of reading on the different options for an exhaust can. I think I have decided on the Hammer2. I'm not like a lot of you guys and do well with all the electronic stuff, more of a hardware guy. I can't even figure out how to start a new thread on this site. Anyway back to the point. Can I get more input on my options from you guys that know a lot more about these bikes. I just don't want to pick the wrong one and mess up a good thing. I have already done the high performance, unreliable bikes and just want a quick reliable bike. Thanks in advance.
OverRev
03-10-2014, 05:59 AM
I just purchased a TQ hammer from 50dro. I had good shopping experience with 50dro from my previous purchase. A little correction is that the TQ Hammer is now $635USD. I have done a lot a research lately for exhaust upgrade. And I do hesitated a bit when I was checking out, it's really quite expensive for a exhaust can.. With the same $$ i can get a catback exhaust for a car. I was also thinking of making my own muffler out of magnaflow can, bur at the end I still decided to get the TQ hammer, it's not a homemade/upgrade of the stock can, and no refill needed. I agress the outlet may not look as good as some others but it comes with DBkiller.. Hope I made the right decision. Now I m debating if I should buy the EBR race ECM or try to get the map that provided by 50dro to load into my stock ECM..
Hey, 50dro, can u pls give me some pointer for what I need to do to my ECM with the map that come with te exhaust?
50dro
03-10-2014, 06:47 AM
Thanks for theorder! [up]
I'll be in touch via email concerning mapping.
50dro
04-01-2014, 10:26 PM
Just installed mine and went on a test ride...WOW!
Pretty quiet at idle but has a mean bark when you're into it and the Twin Motorcycles map is flawless! Smooth torque delivery throughout & almost ZERO decel popping! I'm a fan!
We just finished up a full SPL (sound pressure test) on this and several other favorite XB exhausts. We'll be releasing a full report soon! Stay tuned! (no pun intended...) :)
http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t606/50dro/Torque%20Hammer%20II%20Exhaust%20at%205-0dro/2014-03-30200639_zpscbcbc9e2.jpg
Gatlinjohn
05-03-2014, 09:20 AM
I'm looking forward to the full report on the XB exhaust favorites! Thanks, 50dro. By the way, that TQ Hammer looks great on your bike!
Sirius815
05-03-2014, 09:37 AM
Sexy exhaust!!! Very nice!
s0dhi
05-03-2014, 11:53 AM
Me too... waiting for the full report, 50dro!
50dro
05-03-2014, 02:23 PM
Hang in there guys...Been busy prepping for the Spring riding season and the Dragon VII event.
In short though, the TH II is quieter than the other aftermarket exhausts we tested per the SAE test but growls with a twist of the wrist. Having now put a few hundred miles on mine (mostly in the Smokey Mountains! :p) I love it more and more with each ride. It has a "well tuned performance sound" to it if that makes sense. The supplied map seems dead on. nearly no decel pop whatsoever. Like a refined European exotic vs. a "performance Harley." I mean no offense by that because I like some of the other exhausts on the market too. That's just the best way I can explain it. It's more controlled, and less loud. I'm running mine w/o he db killer by the way... To me, it's plenty loud enough to get attention and quiet enough to coast by...well...those who might not like loud bikes :p
Stay tuned for more details including video clips of the test.
rah7777777
05-03-2014, 09:05 PM
Eventually I'll get mine put on! It's about time for my 2 year oil change too :-)
hntnfsh
05-03-2014, 10:49 PM
I'm in the market for an exhaust and waiting for the sound clips on this one....
50dro
05-04-2014, 11:22 PM
Lots of clips out there on YouTube but here's a sneak peek!
The SAE J2825 test is to be done at 2k, but we decided to test @ 2k, 3k, 5k RPM, then a rev to around redline. This video hasn't been edited at all so it's kinda basic (and rough). It was just about dark when we got to this exhaust so we were working under work lights...sorry for the poor video quality but you get the idea and can hear the sound. Enjoy!!!
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hntnfsh
05-05-2014, 10:41 PM
Nice! Great sounding pipe!
I have the Torque Hammer exhaust on my XB9 (new this winter) but have yet to get the map installed. At first ride I like it. With the DB killer on the bike sounds almost smooth. Like a stock Euro v-twin exhaust. The TH gets somewhat loud(er) when I get on it. All in all a little quite for my taste. Your neighbors will like it. I then took out the DB killer and it got a deeper raw note. Much better in my opinion. Not as loud as the Jardine that I had on it, but can get real loud if you want to make a statement. So far I like it, I will keep posting my opinion as I log more miles and when I get the map installed.
Now I have logged 650 miles on the TH. I still like it. I have been running with the DB killer in it and now that it's broke in I think it's louder. That could just be me because I keep switching with and without the DB killer. I have yet to get the map installed but even with the stock map the pipe doesn't pop or anything. Can't wait to get the map installed to see how much better my bike will run.
Thanks again 50dro for everything...
50dro
05-06-2014, 12:03 AM
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OverRev
05-12-2014, 08:58 PM
got mine installed finally. The delivery from 50dro took only 1 week (from Holland) but i was waiting for my EBR ECM and other stuffs.
first of all, i am very happy with the build quality, the whole muffler was still wrapped with blue tap to protect the chrome when i received it ( but i painted it in cast iron anyways ). It sounds loud and low on my 08 xb12s, not a huge difference at idle. i noticed a smoother power delivery above 4500rpm but the vibration increased a bit. not sure about the real difference in HP because i also had EBR ECM and a open airbox mod done the same time. I found that there are some decel. popping when the engine is cold and there is a dead spot ard 2200-2500 rpm when i gradually accelerate, where the bike will just misfire once or twice, it gets better once the bike warm up. For this i am sure it has nothing to do with the muffler itself, but it could be the fuel map from EBR that's not mapped for this exhaust and the open airbox that makes it run a bit lean. I will put the stock air box back to see if there is any difference. if not, then i may have my ECM dyno tuned for my mods.null
50dro
05-12-2014, 09:57 PM
Cool! [up] Glad you like it. Looks like you tried to post a pic...Didn't come through :(
What exhaust is the EBR ECM for?
OverRev
05-13-2014, 01:38 PM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/OverRev/IMG_2162_zps292a5369.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/OverRev/IMG_2166_zps870d5f18.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/OverRev/IMG_2167_zps4d922fd6.jpg
OverRev
05-13-2014, 01:40 PM
The EBR ECM is just tuned for Jardine i believe, but the description said it would work for all aftermarket exhausts.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/OverRev/IMG_2170_zps24c6afae.jpg
50dro
05-13-2014, 02:19 PM
Looks great! That's a pretty bold statement on the ECM. I'm sure there's room for improvement.
GregoXB
09-02-2014, 05:06 AM
What's inside of the Torque Hammer exhaust? Is it packing?
50dro
09-02-2014, 06:32 AM
Yes. Definitely has some packing that you can see through the port but I haven't seen one taken apart.
bukwylde87
05-03-2016, 10:42 PM
This is a message for 50DRO. I know this is an older post but I am researching a new exhaust for my 2008 Ulysses and I found the review for the Torque Hammer on this site and followed it to 50DRO site. Anyway I see that there is a free tune included for bikes up t0 2007. Do you offer any kind of tune for 2008 to 20010 bikes or am I on my own in that regard?
50dro
05-05-2016, 03:41 AM
This is a message for 50DRO. I know this is an older post but I am researching a new exhaust for my 2008 Ulysses and I found the review for the Torque Hammer on this site and followed it to 50DRO site. Anyway I see that there is a free tune included for bikes up t0 2007. Do you offer any kind of tune for 2008 to 20010 bikes or am I on my own in that regard?
We could sell you a reflash that would be facilitated in one of 2 ways:
Send your ECM to Twin in the Netherlands to be reflashed and returned with the exhaust.
Have Twin remote (share screen) into your PC and flash the ECM. You would need to have an ECM cable to do this.
Contact via email at "info AT 5-0dro.com" for a quote.
bukwylde87
05-10-2016, 10:51 PM
We could sell you a reflash that would be facilitated in one of 2 ways:
Send your ECM to Twin in the Netherlands to be reflashed and returned with the exhaust.
Have Twin remote (share screen) into your PC and flash the ECM. You would need to have an ECM cable to do this.
Contact via email at "info AT 5-0dro.com" for a quote.
Thanks for the reply. That was very helpful. Now I just have to convince my wife!
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