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buell 4 me
10-11-2011, 02:18 PM
So I got my ECM cable today, where should I start? I guess I need to download the Tunerpro RT software (does it work with a 64bit laptop?).

netty2424
10-11-2011, 02:22 PM
start here at thetuniversity.com (http://thetuniversity.com/)

buell 4 me
10-11-2011, 03:47 PM
Yeah, that's probably the safest route....I just like being a cheap ass some times.

netty2424
10-11-2011, 04:36 PM
Yeah, that's probably the safest route....I just like being a cheap ass some times.


I hear ya! This just seems like one of those areas that demands experience. Seen too many posts in my short time where it didn't work out as planned.

Going cheap on this may get expensive!

Stevenc150
10-12-2011, 04:33 AM
If '08-up, then it's Tunerpro only and the Tuniversity is the way to go.

If '07-earlier, you have the option of the above or ECMSpy which is simpler program and something you could tackle yourself.

buell 4 me
10-12-2011, 12:31 PM
Mines an "09" but the thing that I don't like about tuniversity is he does make any changes to the ignition map....seems a little pricey just for a fuel map. But hey that's just me, I'm going to do a little looking around here to see if I can get it tuned on a dyno. Surely I can find someone in Houston that can tune it.

GOduc
10-12-2011, 12:43 PM
But hey that's just me, I'm going to do a little looking around here to see if I can get it tuned on a dyno. Surely I can find someone in Houston that can tune it.

IMO, im not a pro or anythign but you really should stick to these criteria when tuning

the best and most efficient way to get YOUR BIKE SPECIFICALLY, to RUN TO ITS MAXIMUM POTENTIAL is to tune based on these criteria:
1. THE bike you ride on a regular basis (k&n, muffler, etc.)

2. WHERE you ride on a regular basis (altitude, weather, humidity, etc.)

3. HOW you ride (track, city streets, if for some reason you only put your bike on a dyno, you installed wings and you fly your bike, etc.)

if you wanted to put your bike on a dyno after you do a lot of tunign to confirm everything thats usually a good idea. but you really should have everything relatively dialed in before hand, it usually takes multiple datalogg sessions and adjusting to get to where it needs to be (this takes probably ten rides of logging sometimes more with a stock narrowband 02). not just throw it on the dyno for the first go at tuning and youre done in a few pulls. not usually the case

this is also a good
tuning guide (http://xoptiinside.com/BuellTuningGuideEnglish.pdf) that can help get you started

buell 4 me
10-12-2011, 02:32 PM
Thanks, but I realize this. I have a turbo rx-7 with a complete standalone ECM with a wideband O2 installed. And I did pretty much what you said to tune it....all tuning done on the road, followed up by a few dyno pulls just to check the numbers.
The problem with this for me is I don't have a wide and for my bike and a dyno shop would have one.....sure it wouldn't be the ideal conditions for tuning but still better and safer than 1.) doing it on the street 2.) no wideband.

anrkizm95
10-12-2011, 02:48 PM
start here at thetuniversity.com [up]

theoctopus
10-12-2011, 04:19 PM
Thanks guys. I appreciate all the local support! It means a lot.

To address a couple of your concerns:

1. I don't adjust timing because that really requires dyno time. Because I work remotely, I am not able to address this area of the ECM safely.

2. It is true that in a perfect world, you would remap both fuel and timing. However, simply remapping the fuel on a Buell makes a very big difference. Enough to justify the time spent on it, at least.

3. I know that my services are not cheap. I do not charge exorbitant costs for what I offer, however. I built my pricing structure around the EBR race ECM cost so that it would remain competitive. For example, I can turn your ECM into a race ECM (for almost all bikes and regional environments) for less than the EBR race ECM. For more custom options, I charge for my time and personal availability. What you get when you book a more advanced package includes more than just the service itself. Essentially, I conform to your schedule completely, and offer lifelong tech support. There is significant value to that. I can't tell you the number of times I've gotten up at 3 AM to do a 3 hour session with someone in another country. Just the other day I flew 6 hours home, hopped in my car, got to my house at 9:30 PM, and was doing a webinar for a client in Australia by 10:00 PM.

Perhaps a webinar would be the best bet for you. If you tuned your own standalone ECM, then you can probably handle everything from there on out.

Either way, I wish you the best of luck in figuring this all out. Ride safe!