haw critical for ecm

[alaskakid]

ok so i have a 06 xb9sx I'm going to get a spec ops exhaust, k&n air filter, and do the breather mod...my problem is I'm not feeling to confident about doing the ecmspy myself and idk if my local harley dealer is willing to remap my ecm to work with the mods.

so my question is, is there someone doing a basic re-programed, drop in ecm for people with the most popular mods, or should i track down a race ecm...if option two, were the hell can i find those buggers buggers, cuz I've looked and can't find one

i know its more of a newb post but i have a lot of these sense I'm way up here in alaska and not that many people to talk with about this stuff

[wolfo68]

buy an ecmspy cable and someone on here will help you burn a race map at the very least. or you could take a webinar from theoctupus and he'll help you out greatly

[c818919]

I live in Fairbanks......and could be talked into helping
Tuniversity sounds like a good choice.....too

[alaskakid]

hmmm ok, as with you guys probably...this is my baby and thats its brain, i don't wanna turn a champ into a paperweight with one click.... thats why i was leaning twords a plug and go

[c818919]

its pretty easy....it really needs logs to get all you can out of the mods you have done....

[alaskakid]

I still would like ta know my options for drop in if there is any other then the buell race and EBR. also would the buell race be a good match for aftermarket exhaust, air filter, and breather if i were to go that route (hear the buell race is able to compensate enough for the individual components on top of its higher performance setup)

[theoctopus]

The EBR ECM generally meets what you are looking for. Results with the ECM, however, are mixed. You have to keep in mind that these ECMs are created on bikes in Wisconsin. This means that it is not your bike, not your mods, not your riding style, and most importantly, not your riding environment. This can turn what is a good buy for someone in Wisconsin or surrounding area, into a pain in the ass for you. Do a quick search of EBR ECM and you'll find that, while many people are happy, many are very, very unhappy. It's hard to say where your experience will fall.

Alternatively, with a little bit of time datalogging, I can help you turn your ECM into exactly what your bike needs. I'm offering Black Friday pricing, too, so you can save some big time bucks while you're at it. It's not a drop-in solution, to be sure, but it will give you very good results for your work (which will consist primarily of riding your motorcycle....tough, I know).

Check it out: The Tuniversity (http://www.thetuniversity.com/).

[wolfo68]

+1

[alaskakid]

just talked to local harley, had no clue that u could remap a buell and told me they searched and there was no other options lol...soooooo i think i might just go with a buell race ecm, seems that it has worked well for people.

anybody got a gutted can (or one of the usual aftermarkets), k&n, breather mod, and buell race ecm on their bike please reply or PM me!! would be awesome ta hear exactly how everything put together is working

[theoctopus]

I feel sometimes like people don't read. Not only can you remap your Buell, but it's actually fairly straightforward. If you don't want to do it, I can do it for you. I have plenty of positive reviews and testimonials.

Also, your Harley dealer is the last person you should ask for advice on your Buell.

[anrkizm95]

Also, your Harley dealer is the last person you should ask for advice on your Buell. [up] i couldnt agree more.

[alaskakid]

I've heard that to...but doesn't hurt to call and ask, then again i did smirk a little when they said there was no other options available....while i was looking at my computer screen showing me the ebr pre-programmed, and reading my current ecmspy nots hahaha

[c818919]

i agree with eight arms......its too easy to pass up. ebr pre-programmed isnt the way t5o go with a xb.

[alaskakid]

i feel like one hell of a dumbass right now....for some reason i was reading all these threads so i could get ready and start ordering parts and working on my bike over the winter, and got it stuck in my head i had an 06', suddenly it just kicked in, i have an 08' 25th edition.

Is the new DDFI 3 ecm capable of compensating a little better for the changes then the past ecm's? i know it won't fully correct, just a simple question so hopefully i won't get bashed to hard haha

[alaskakid]

after day and night of searching i found a page that says the ecm will calibrate to new adjustments if you do a 5-10 minute ride in the closed loop mode (2500-3500rpm, and riding between 45-60mph) any input from some of u highly experienced buell people that know the system inside and out?

[theoctopus]

The corrections systems on the Buell are good at what they do. The problem is that they are built to adjust for changes in environment, not aftermarket alterations AND environmental changes. If you are already maxing out the corrections with the environmental differences, then these corrections parameters will not be able to properly fuel your bike given the aftermarket items.

In short, no, you cannot rely on corrections to handle what you are asking the bike to do. You will need an EBR ECM or a tune.

[alaskakid]

oki dokey, best start savin for EBR haha

[alaskakid]

no dyno in anchorage, and i don't believe there is one in all of alaska either haha

[theoctopus]

I'm willing to bet there is a dyno in both anchorage and in alaska, given that alaska is a mecca for many motorcycle riders.

With that said, a dyno will not produce a tune superior to datalogging the bike under real operating conditions.

[c818919]

theres one in fairbanks....but i have a 1125r too now....trying to learn how to tune it. dont want an ebr ecm....stuck with what they give you and the latitude change here is GREAT! Ill figure it out going to be a long winter i think...45 below today.

[theoctopus]

c818919: I'm running Black Friday pricing right now through the Sunday following Turkey Day. I can hook you up with a webinar at reduced cost, and you'll have the whole winter to futz around with the software to get everything set up and ready for the spring time. Equally, you can secure the pricing now with a deposit/payment in full and then use the webinar at any point between now and June 2012.

[dave_xb12r]

just talked to local harley, had no clue that u could remap a buell and told me they searched and there was no other options


That's the funniest thing I've read in a long time. Thanks for the laugh. Sorry Alaskakid, but it seems like you're either not reading or not willing to accept that there are other options besides EBR. Feel free to take the gamble with them. But if it was me, I'd go with the proven method of data logging.

Seems like EBR has had a 60% success rate with people liking their ECMs tuning. Plus they tune for bikes that are NO WHERE near your air pressure, moisture level and normal operating temperate. On the other hand, I've NEVER heard of someone being disappointed in data logging.

But hey, what do we know? You should trust that HD dealership. HD has done great things for buell! By the way, ask them if they have a certified buell tech. Oh they don't have one because he got laid off? That's odd.

[alaskakid]

lol i know...got quite a laugh after the call ended, it was just a far shot... also as much as it sounds I'm not ruling out the possibility of tuning (been PM'ing some people) I'm just very unsure of myself but we'll see. I'm doing all the bolt on and DIY mods over the harsh alaskan winter me and c818919 are currently enduring and won't be able to ride till late april

[dave_xb12r]

Octo can pretty much do it for you. If you pay for it, he'll log into your computer and do it while showing you how to do it again in the future if you choose.

In your situation, I would do one of 2 things: Drop in a race map or someone elses special ops type map, or pay octo to set you up with a dataloging setup.

[alaskakid]

thats one of the guys I've been pm'ing haha
:D

[alaskakid]

btw, i know i ask a lot of question but I'm just a guy that likes to cover all my bases and not end up hurting my bike...so thanks for not flaming me to much (i also try do as an extensive of a search as i can before i even think about posting [up])

[dave_xb12r]

You're really not going to screw anything up. If a map isn't compatible, the ECM wont take it. First thing you need to do is buy a ECMspy cable and install ECMspy on a laptop. You'll need it with any route that you'll go with. Start poking around in the program. You can start with a TPS reset. Follow my video, it's as easy as hitting the toilet water.

[c818919]

Its an 1125r

[alaskakid]

yea but still a buell haha, as buell owners...were in our own little world I've come to learn

[dave_xb12r]

No, looks like it's a 08 XB9Sx. OK, so use tunepro

[c818919]

Exactly

[alaskakid]

2008 xb9sx, currently completely stock