Checking the static timing with ECMSpy for Mono

[Tachometer]

I just did 16000 kilometers service for my 2007 XB12STT. I tried to check the static timing with newer ECMSpy for Mono, but I didn't find that functionality at all. I gave up and used older ECMSpy. Do the newer one have this functonality or not? TPS resetting worked fine with newer one.

 

[c818919]

did you pay fit ecmspy for mono? if you didn't it doesn't work. You must donate to have a working copy.

 

[Tachometer]

Yes, I have paid version and I also already have used that one for TPS resetting and burning race map to ECM. I just didn't find the static timing section. Maybe I'm just blind...

 

[ich]

http://www.ecmspy.com/cgi-bin/detail_ld.cgi?ecm=DDFI2&offset=85

digital in, bit 0 (rightmost bit).
seems easier to me to listen to the fuel pump starting.

 

[Tachometer]

Oh, that is so much easier in the old ECMSpy: There is a big CPS Signal screen in Diagnostics page.

And instructions for doing the check (from ecmspy.com):

How to check static timing:

This is done by slowly rotating the engine, whilst watching the Cam Position Sensor on the Diagnostics page.

1. Raise the back wheel off the floor
2. Remove timing inspection plug
3. Put bike into 5th gear to ease fine turning of the engine
4. Raise side stand
5. Select Diagnostics page in ECMSpy or similar and connect to the ECM.
6. Turn back wheel forward slowly, until the timing mark appears at the left of the inspection hole
7. The CPS value should be 0 or 5, depending on which cylinder is due to fire next. If it is on 0, go to next step, if on 5, rotate engine one more full revolution, then follow the next step.
8. Rotate the wheel very slowly until the CPS value in ECMSpy or similar increases to 5 and the fuel pump starts running. This is the exact point of firing.

Now check the timing mark inside the inspection hole. If it is exactly central all is good, if to the left, then the timing is advanced, if to the right of the hole, it is retarded. If the timing is not correct, follow the instructions in your service manual to correct.

Am I right, the digital in value should be like 00000000 for CPS value 0 and 00000001 for CPS value 5 in the newer version?

 

[ich]

yes.
it's easier imo to align the mark, then turn the sensor assembly til the fuel pump primes.

 

[wiznut]

yes.
it's easier imo to align the mark, then turn the sensor assembly til the fuel pump primes.

Can you elaborate on this method?

 

[Tachometer]

Ich, your method is more than just checking the timing, you're adjusting it at the same time by turning timing plate?

In that way, is there any differences by adjusting timing mark against front or rear cylinder? Or how you can find out you're adjusting front cylinder?

 

[Tachometer]

I'm such a noob. The timing mark cannot be seen if the rear cylinder is in end of the compression stroke / start of the power stroke.

 

[ich]

Ich, your method is more than just checking the timing, you're adjusting it at the same time by turning timing plate?

Yes, because
a) the mark on the crankshaft will not change position on it's own
b) the key of the rotor cup will not change position on it's own
c) the blips of the rotor cup will not change position on their own
d) the sensor assy. will not change position on it's own

and if one of the statements above is not true, timing has to be set up anyway. once done correctly, no further checks required, because these are all parts that do not wear while the engine is in use.

 

[Tachometer]

Thank you, that was very useful advice. I think I'll do the check and adjusting using your method in next service.

 

[jrc]

hey i know this is old thread but i got ecmspy for mono version 2.0.31.2. i did not find anywhere to donate so i did a little searching and i guess they reached there donate limit so no longer need to donate so i should be all set with full version. but i plug into my buell. everything goes ok. goto diagnostics page and i cannot see anything or any live data. am i missing something? prob something stupid, my first time using program. any help is appreciated. just want to double check my static timing.

 

[jrc]

hey i know this is old thread but i got newest version of ecmspy for mono and i cant find in program a spot for the cps signal to check static timing either. i did some research not sure how correct it is but it says that ecmspy reached their donation level so its not donate anymore. but it almost seems like i still dont have full version of something. any help on this would be appreciated.

 

[34nineteen]

hey i know this is old thread but i got newest version of ecmspy for mono and i cant find in program a spot for the cps signal to check static timing either. i did some research not sure how correct it is but it says that ecmspy reached their donation level so its not donate anymore. but it almost seems like i still dont have full version of something. any help on this would be appreciated.

You will need to get an older version of the program if you are looking for the screen in Diagnostic that called out the CPS signal as 0 or 5 to check static timing.

I think the newest version that still had that function was 1.12.x

 

[Cooter]

Doesn't Barrett know a trick that triggers the fuel pump at TDC?

 

[34nineteen]

Doesn't Barrett know a trick that triggers the fuel pump at TDC?

Barrett doesnt need to rely on tricks or other tomfoolery to perform simple tasks, like you damn west-coasters.

 

[Cooter]

Us west coasters have the internet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2epTWjP5rfg

 

[34nineteen]

Us west coasters have the internet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2epTWjP5rfg

That collection of AOL discs you've been hoarding since 1999 is not the internet.

 

[Cooter]

Those are the wheels of the wagon train that brings all the Windows '95 I want.

 

[Captncarl]

How do you donate?