Difference between race ecm and stock?

[drsuzuki]

So what's the advantage? Has anyone done a dyno run with a stock one and then put the race in and checked the hp difference? Is using a ecm spy and burning a race map to your stock ecm an advantage? I don't have any running issues with my bike now but if it's a power gain I might look into it but if all it really does is smooth things out then I don't need it.

 

[nilla]

defintie, dyno-able power increase. at the cost of polluting the environment a little more.

ECM spy is free, and the cable is like 10 bucks.

have you looked at any dyno charts?

 

[d_adams]

Check out the exhaust shootout from www.americansportbike.com
Pretty good report overall and it shows the differences with a few pipes using the stock ECM vs a standard race ECM.
The race ECM is about $250 and the cable for ecmspy is about $40. I do know ebr won't warranty or reflash a race ECM if you alter it with ecmspy. The race ECM is definitely worth the $$.

 

[Red93stang]

EXHAUST SHOOTOUT

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[d_adams]

I don't get why sometimes links work and other times they don't. :-(

Thx Red

 

[Red93stang]

No problem! Here to help

 

[drsuzuki]

Thanks for the shootout link. Looks like the big difference is by adding a pipe/muffler. After doing that I can see doing the air box mod and ecm to have it all flow correct. I had a KTM smc625 and it came restricted from the factory. Had to remove the throttle stop from inside the carb. Doing that made a big difference. I was just in the dark if the Buells were restricted like that.

 

[jimijeans]

Lots you can do for the Buells. Exhaust, Breather reroute,the air box depending on where you live, I didn't alter mine because it won't run to lean that way. I picked up a Showyomoto twin ramair for Hot time of the year.(beautiful BUT expensive)Bikes run towards the lean area due to the EPA standards.When its cold, I just reinstall the stock air box check w/my Laptop & ride. K&N works good for my set up.You'll figure it out. Thats the fun of these bikes. [up]

 

[jimijeans]

BTW/ K&N,air filter-Exhaust-DrummerSS-Erik Buell Programable ECM W/software complete.EBR, suspension kit.braided brake lines W/ race pads. A wideband O2sens., helps as well. Also switch the Ecm out after Track days to an EBR,preprogramed ECM. The bike really runs sweet w/only a TPS re-set every time i fill up.08+ can reset tps w/key turn procedure. I may never be completely done due to the many areas you can persue. Thats the Fun of it all. Make it your own.

 

[RedLighting]

I ordered a EBR ECM for my 09 XB12Ss will be here this, can't wait. Dumb question were is the ecm located on my bike. [confused]

 

[Xb12sLt]

If it's an S it's under the seat, If it's an R it's under the front fairing. There are no dumb questions...just dumb answers (sometimes)

 

[RedLighting]

Got my EBR ECM today, ran right out to the garage and put it on. Took about ten minutes, reset TPS and let it idle 10 minutes ( ebr instructions). WOW what a differance pulls like a fright train and no decel popping. Kudos to EBR

 

[Jobe Zeebuh]

Big difference

pulls like a fright train

4 sure[up] Just tuned my stock ecm. I think race e.c.m.'s are a rip off.

 

[dallasb]

I think race e.c.m.'s are a rip off.

[up] completely agree Jobe. Considering that its only 50 bucks to get the cable, and there are so many DIY tuning guides floating around, I don't understand the need to spend $250 for something that will only get you "closer" to ideal fueling conditions.

 

[Miami78]

its only 50 bucks to get the cable

$50? Here there for $30:
Cable.

 

[unionthug]

I see the $30 cables are actually cable parts. Assembly required.

 

[ct1200]

So we can actually tune the +08s?
Or is it here try this map and hopefully it works?
Cause I thought there was no way to log with the new ecms?

 

[oneoldbuell]

im selling the d&d and k&n ecm reflash if anyone wants, big diffrence. better then race ecm. but anything is better then stock ecm when you change some stuff

 

[Miami78]

Unionthug - look again, the prices are below the cables. The $30 option is for an assembled cable, it's $25 for a disassembled one.

 

[rrh481]

I paid like 40 bucks off eBay with the latest version of ecmspy