ebr ecm failure??
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theoctopus
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Pretty common experience with the EBR ECMs. Unfortunately I hear more negative feedback than positive.
Iamarchangel
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Rampant consumerism: points to a lifestyle change. The way I see it anyway.
Or work on your troubleshooting skills.
At the very least, now you know that the ECM has nothing to do with whatever you're finding wrong with your bike.
Or work on your troubleshooting skills.
At the very least, now you know that the ECM has nothing to do with whatever you're finding wrong with your bike.
Beckert, First Welcome to the forum.I don't know what you may be doing OR going to do for some Extra Performance so I will start from Here! What caused you think the ECM needed to be changed? Maybe just to upgrade?
Make sure to go through the TPS reset from scratch. Is the Exhaust Completely Stock still? Have you called Erik Buell Racing? Also what mods have you(if any)done? They will need to know everything so they know what to do with your ECM. This way If needed send it back and make sure to Always hold on the orignal ECM so you have a back up.
I had to send mine back and They made it correct. Be patient young Skywalker and she should perform nicely once done. You will need to log some miles NOT stop and go traffic hopefully Highway Riding and will start to notice differences in certain areas of the power band.
You will only get about 12 horsepower max extra and maybe a little more if you choose the right exhaust muffler you will get approx.,3hp from that. NOT bad for a measley 270. bucks or so. You can't buy a Stock ECM with a stock set up of maps /& Epromm for that, plus only the Dealer can Provide the Correct Settings for our newer Bikes.
HACK maps NOT included. Try to stay away from those at this time. BTW/ did you install the ECM with the Battery connected? Run a Voltage check from the Battery with the STOCK Ecm back on the bike this way you get the Stator problems these 1125 model bikes are having out of the way.
Try to reset the Throttle with the Key turn method Make sure to Twist the Throttle 3 times only. I'm sure you will have the bike up and riding in no time.
Make sure to e-mail EBR and remember the racing season is here so if you don't hear from them e-mail them again in 2 days after your orignal e-mail.
EVERYONE needs to remember with out the racing Erik is doing, [WE] Buellers wouldn't have some of the Major support that He is doing for us at his own expense without racing/sponsers etc.. as his main earnings there would be no goodies for or bikes at all.
JUST a bunch of Bikes that H/D knows would fade and they will hope to see you in Their Showroom Soon!*Jimi
Make sure to go through the TPS reset from scratch. Is the Exhaust Completely Stock still? Have you called Erik Buell Racing? Also what mods have you(if any)done? They will need to know everything so they know what to do with your ECM. This way If needed send it back and make sure to Always hold on the orignal ECM so you have a back up.
I had to send mine back and They made it correct. Be patient young Skywalker and she should perform nicely once done. You will need to log some miles NOT stop and go traffic hopefully Highway Riding and will start to notice differences in certain areas of the power band.
You will only get about 12 horsepower max extra and maybe a little more if you choose the right exhaust muffler you will get approx.,3hp from that. NOT bad for a measley 270. bucks or so. You can't buy a Stock ECM with a stock set up of maps /& Epromm for that, plus only the Dealer can Provide the Correct Settings for our newer Bikes.
HACK maps NOT included. Try to stay away from those at this time. BTW/ did you install the ECM with the Battery connected? Run a Voltage check from the Battery with the STOCK Ecm back on the bike this way you get the Stator problems these 1125 model bikes are having out of the way.
Try to reset the Throttle with the Key turn method Make sure to Twist the Throttle 3 times only. I'm sure you will have the bike up and riding in no time.
Make sure to e-mail EBR and remember the racing season is here so if you don't hear from them e-mail them again in 2 days after your orignal e-mail.
EVERYONE needs to remember with out the racing Erik is doing, [WE] Buellers wouldn't have some of the Major support that He is doing for us at his own expense without racing/sponsers etc.. as his main earnings there would be no goodies for or bikes at all.
JUST a bunch of Bikes that H/D knows would fade and they will hope to see you in Their Showroom Soon!*Jimi
lamarchangel: Troubleshooting skills...?- I bought the EBR ECM only because of what i heard others gained of it... For them, the EBR ECM fixed the problems I have with my bike ( especially drivability i the low rev area ). Basic driving techniques, like taking slow turns or roundabouts in second with fully engaged clutch, is impossible because of the stutter, surging and rattle below 4k rev range....
Its my impression, that a lot of you guys in here fixed this problem with the EBR ECM??
I have owned several, both v-twins and inline 4, none of them had such serious fueling issues!! I love the cr`s power, the looks and handling- but drivability is more important... HELP ME!!!!!!! I Emailed EBR, still waiting for an answer...
Its my impression, that a lot of you guys in here fixed this problem with the EBR ECM??
I have owned several, both v-twins and inline 4, none of them had such serious fueling issues!! I love the cr`s power, the looks and handling- but drivability is more important... HELP ME!!!!!!! I Emailed EBR, still waiting for an answer...
Jimijeans:
I am not looking for extra performance, just extra drivability... My bike is stuttering, surging below 4k revs, which is SO bad in turns..
im just waiting to drop my bike in a roundabout!!
I installed the EBR ECM with the stock setup on my stock bike with the battery in, did the TPS reset, idle for ten minutes and then went for a 20 mile highway cruise... No differnce at all??
I am not looking for extra performance, just extra drivability... My bike is stuttering, surging below 4k revs, which is SO bad in turns..
im just waiting to drop my bike in a roundabout!!I installed the EBR ECM with the stock setup on my stock bike with the battery in, did the TPS reset, idle for ten minutes and then went for a 20 mile highway cruise... No differnce at all??
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Mine made a huge difference. Much better low rpm manners. Still jumpy below 2500 thou.
And I LOVE LOVE LOVE the reduced engine braking!
And it runs MUCH cooler, Almost never gets above 200 deg f. anymore.
And I LOVE LOVE LOVE the reduced engine braking!
And it runs MUCH cooler, Almost never gets above 200 deg f. anymore.
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Beckert (I'm posting this in all the threads you've put this complaint in)
There are many causes for the problems you are vaguely describing. A faulty map/ECM is the least likely. The fact that a new one made no difference simply points out that you were on the wrong track.
Think of what the ECM does. It takes the signals from a limited number of samples on your bike and puts it into a formula to give the appropriate response. It sends you an error code if any of the sensors have readings outside an indicated parameter.
You don't mention error codes, you don't mention plug checks, you don't mention any trouble-shooting at all.
All you've done is shoot the messengers: the ECM, EBR, people trying to help.
Go get your hands dirty or get a real mechanic to look at it.
There are many causes for the problems you are vaguely describing. A faulty map/ECM is the least likely. The fact that a new one made no difference simply points out that you were on the wrong track.
Think of what the ECM does. It takes the signals from a limited number of samples on your bike and puts it into a formula to give the appropriate response. It sends you an error code if any of the sensors have readings outside an indicated parameter.
You don't mention error codes, you don't mention plug checks, you don't mention any trouble-shooting at all.
All you've done is shoot the messengers: the ECM, EBR, people trying to help.
Go get your hands dirty or get a real mechanic to look at it.
theoctopus
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I'm going to drop a couple of my thoughts in this thread, real quick:
1. The EBR ECM has been tuned for one bike, in one location, on a dyno. Your bike is a different bike, in a different location, riding out in the real world. The difference in motorcycle and operating conditions has a HUGE impact on how the fueling and corrections parameters need to be set. I'm just going to assume you bought an ECM for your exact set of performance modifications, but if you didn't, then that's another big variable to throw into the mix.
2. If the ECM were faulty, your bike would be worse than before, or not work at all. The fact that there is no change in driveability tells me that the ECM works fine, it's just not right for your bike.
3. The reason that the ECM may have worked for others while it did not necessarily work for you is because it may have been better suited to their bike and their riding environment.
4. You're playing the classic chase game with the EBR ECMs: you'll send it back a few times to get it reflashed, and it will never suit your needs.
If you want improvements in performance, driveability, and engine life, you need to tune appropriately for your specific situation. To this end, you will need to use a program like TunerPro. I run a small, well-reviewed company that helps riders custom tune their motorcycles. You can check it out here. That's www.thetuniversity.com. Shoot me a message via the contact form on the site if you have any questions.
1. The EBR ECM has been tuned for one bike, in one location, on a dyno. Your bike is a different bike, in a different location, riding out in the real world. The difference in motorcycle and operating conditions has a HUGE impact on how the fueling and corrections parameters need to be set. I'm just going to assume you bought an ECM for your exact set of performance modifications, but if you didn't, then that's another big variable to throw into the mix.
2. If the ECM were faulty, your bike would be worse than before, or not work at all. The fact that there is no change in driveability tells me that the ECM works fine, it's just not right for your bike.
3. The reason that the ECM may have worked for others while it did not necessarily work for you is because it may have been better suited to their bike and their riding environment.
4. You're playing the classic chase game with the EBR ECMs: you'll send it back a few times to get it reflashed, and it will never suit your needs.
If you want improvements in performance, driveability, and engine life, you need to tune appropriately for your specific situation. To this end, you will need to use a program like TunerPro. I run a small, well-reviewed company that helps riders custom tune their motorcycles. You can check it out here. That's www.thetuniversity.com. Shoot me a message via the contact form on the site if you have any questions.
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The rattling and surging is mostly the vacuum actuator clutch.
Don't like it shift to first.
Stock ECM I had constant check engine lights for cylinder fuel difference .
Also the bike would only run smooth from 5k up.
Froggy on bad web says his bike runs at 2k or whatever.
Part of having a 11,500 red line is loosing low end torque.
My ECM is tuned for my pipe and kn
Don't like it shift to first.
Stock ECM I had constant check engine lights for cylinder fuel difference .
Also the bike would only run smooth from 5k up.
Froggy on bad web says his bike runs at 2k or whatever.
Part of having a 11,500 red line is loosing low end torque.
My ECM is tuned for my pipe and kn
Lamarchangel:
"All you've done is shoot the messengers: the ECM, EBR, people trying to help"
I did not intend to offend anybody, I really appreciate all the feedback from you guys.. Guess im just a little confused about my bike at the moment.
[sad]
I will now focus on other areas than my ECM, like the plugs and clutch actuator!! thanks guys
"All you've done is shoot the messengers: the ECM, EBR, people trying to help"
I did not intend to offend anybody, I really appreciate all the feedback from you guys.. Guess im just a little confused about my bike at the moment.
[sad]
I will now focus on other areas than my ECM, like the plugs and clutch actuator!! thanks guys
