Every one's favorite....Exhaust!!!

[LeFox]

Oh, also.. I don't want a can I have to re-pack every 5000 miles...

if you can still get one, go for the buell rce muffler or drummer.
the buell race muffler has the best low-end output.

How loud is the Jardine vs the Drummer?...thing is, I want more "get out of my way" volume, but, not so much that I get an annoying drowning on the highway.

drummer has a lower thumping sound, more harley like. (100-105db)
jardine has it's own low sound with some (i think) cool backfire blows when releasing the throttle. it is also louder (110-120db)

difference in traffic, with the jardine people will make room for you.
when in a traffic-jam, bike's (even ducati) let me pass so they can ride behind me because people hear me coming and make room.

performance wise, drummer is the better choice.


please note that what thundersteve copied, that muffler's which use the same model for both the 9 & 12 can have totally different results on each model.

logically, a specific model manufactured muffler should perform better but will be more expensive

as lucas already mentioned, here is a shootout with the most common exhausts.
both on the 9 & 12, with soundfiles (live sound is still different) and dyno-charts
download <<here>>

 

[link]

I have been to the Drummer shop here in NC. I ended up putting a D&D on my xb9. It is a direct factory mount. I personally like the sound of the D&D compared to the Drummer. At idle it sound like a twicked out hd. At highway speeds it has a nice rummble not to hard on the ears, it will also give you nice popping when getting out of the throttle.

 

[MrOrange]

How loud is the Jardine vs the Drummer?.

Havent herd the drummer but I have to were ear plugs with my Jardine--it is bad without them. I also set off car alarms when ridding through parking lots at mid to full throttel. Its damm loud...

 

[mrdozer2you]

Yep, Ditto

 

[Das Bolt]

I kinda like the car alarm part, but Jardine makes a plug/baffle you can insert to quiet it down.

 

[mnbuellman]

Jardine isnt loud enough in my opinion! But a def good buy for someone looking for something better then stock! Thats my only complaint.

 

[LeFox]

Jardine isnt loud enough in my opinion! But a def good buy for someone looking for something better then stock! Thats my only complaint.

get a force setup.
if that isn't loud enough, run without headers...not saying anything about performance, just loudness.

 

[Tork]

I've had the Latus on an XB9 and now have the D&D on an XB12. I love both cans. I think the Latus sounds similar to the Drummer, with a nice deep bass note. I also like the top fuel dragster sound of the D&D. It's loud (one of the louder mufflers out there), and has a very percussive 'potato-potato' (with emphasis on the 'p's and 't's). I think the D&D tone is similar to the Jardine, but louder. It also has a sweet midrange hit.

If you've narrowed your choices to the Drummer and the D&D, I would choose the Drummer for overall linear performance and tone, and the D&D for it's louder and more aggressive sound and peaky midrange curve. They're both great pipes.

-Tork

 

[flyboy]

I am confused as to why we can't have a aftermarket pipes like any other harley engine,longshots or something with a nice blacked out finish without both pipes running into a muffler.please explain

 

[mnbuellman]

hey flyboy check pic in the postings.

http://www.buellxb.com/article421.htm

 

[LeFox]

I am confused as to why we can't have a aftermarket pipes like any other harley engine,longshots or something with a nice blacked out finish without both pipes running into a muffler.please explain

cause buell also likes performance & torque and doesn't want to give all that up for show.

 

[hughes]

anybody have any results with the micron?

 

[LeFox]

anybody have any results with the micron?

not yet...fitting it this winter

 

[ironken]

I'm new to this forum, but would like to add my .02. I have had D&D, Drummer, Supertrapp (on my S-1....a turd of an exhaust and was promptly scrapped for a V&H) and Vance and Hines. The D&D and V&H were on my X-1W....preferred the D&D....bullet proof! On my XB12S I have a Drummer and LOVE it. I am a huge fan of stock appearance and fitment and the Drummer delivers and runs very, "clean." By that I mean it makes great linear power....no real dips, tested by my ass dyno. At 500' elevation with the stock ECM and stock airbox cover and filter, it fuels well and not lean by plug inspection. Personally, if I get the Buell race air cleaner and '07 airbox cover, I probably will do the race ECM for fear of lean-ness. The Drummer produces a nice deep mellow sound, but, will get a good strong moan when you twist the loud knob. Any sort of issues with the pipe and Kevin is only a phone call away.....Kenny

 

[DubaiJam]

I have a Free Spirits Reverso exhaust from Trojan Horse in the UK.

This is renowned by many as far superior to the Jardine, Micron and The Drummer. One thing is, it aint cheap, although saying that it is the zorst of choice for most of the Buell race series.

Great sound and the engine spins up sooo much quicker but that is with the addition of a Power Commander and a K+N

Email me for pics.

 

[BadS1]

Who says its renowned to perform better then the Drummer or the rest???

 

[DubaiJam]

BadS1,

There has been a load of dyno work done on it apparently and if you look at the Buell race series accross europe pretty much all of em use it.

I can get the dyno stats if anyone is interested.

I haven't heard the best stories about the Drummer unfortunately. The Micron is meant to be OK but super loud.

 

[BadS1]

The Drummer did quite well in the Dyno shootout. Just barely lost to the Micron and not enough to be upset about. I've seen the Dyno's on your pipe. Its fine but no better then the rest really. No one racer is using it here to my Knowledge. Matt from Trojan gave one to Hal's to use but it wasn't on the bike last neither. You haven't heard the best stories about Drummer???? Could you please point me in that direction to read the bad stories?? Quite frankly I've known Kevin from the beginning and haven't heard a bad repour other then the occasional to loud for the neighbors.

 

[chris_xb12s]

Stealth Exhausts from the UK. Pretty rare but look the part, sound the part and far better than the likes of jardines as they dont need re-packing. Video isnt great but is something. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dcvbs7GGEu8&feature=channel_page

ftp://ftp.americansportbike.com/outgoing/XB_Exhaust_Shootout_Test_Report.zip
Chris

 

[WULFGODSXB]

i just got my jardine love the sound and couldn't beat the price. found them on e-bay for 240.00. i have not put 5000 on it yet so i have not repacked it. i was wondering if any body has tried different packing other than what jardine offers to see if it last longer