This is for the people who have never or find negotiating awkward... I used to be one of these people until a friend of mine really opened my mind to what is a solid barter.
FYI I paid asking price for my bike 2007 XB9R (3800 miles) Never downed with Jardine pipe/cover/rear stand. $3000 ... That's a no brainer. If you offer a person less during a no brainer... people get a bit pissy. Usually because they are already taking a loss or breaking even to move on. Keep this in mind when making offers.
This should be a sticky on how to negotiate... I've literally went to look at cars/bikes/firearms listed for $5000-$6000 and walked away with title in hand for $2900-3900
Only once did it take 3 days... and the guy called me and said "Hey man I been thinking and I'd like to accept your offer of $3700"
My reply was "Man I wish you had called me 2 days ago... I can only afford $3500 today, I'm sorry I had some repairs to take care of" (No bs... I only had $3500 left for my project)
His reply "That's fine come get the car" (Which his original price was $5000 but too me the car screamed "I'm worth $3500-$3800... Clean me, Paint me, tune me, mod me slightly and give me good rubber and now I'll be worth a solid $5500-6500 but only cost you $4500 total"
This was written to help a fellow bueller on a purchase where seller was asking $3900 for a 2007 Red XB9R all stock, very clean! 14K Miles and the buyer was thinking it was out of his $3000 price range.
That bike looks good but I know myself and other fellow Buellers wouldn't pay $3900 for one with 14K Miles. That's what a dealer would ask for that bike $3995...if it was mine with 6200 dealer would ask $4995. If I was interested in that bike, I would goto see it... Bring $3200 and a friend. Look real good at it, ride it if he will let you or ride bitch with him. If everything looks good, sounds good make him an offer.
Say "Well the bike looks good, but right now my concern is the price (DON'T STOP TALKING) Exactly how much are you looking to get out of this?"
Usually most people repeat their sale ad and say "I have it listed for $3900" and occasionally add "I'm pretty firm" or "Make me an offer"
Sometimes people say "As much as I can get" <<<< Those people either want extremely close to asking price or the opposite they want cash in hand today and are hoping somebody offers them $2900-3500 sooner than later.
No matter what they say... Just throw it out there without hesitation "I'm prepared to offer you $3000 Cash money today as long as you have a clear title in hand"
Don't say 2900 or twenty nine nada nonya... You'll kill the deal and have to back peddle.
Now that persons response is going to tell you if they are really willing to deal... or they never even considered taking less than say $3800.
Now this works both ways... not everyone who acts shocked during an offer really means it... They are feeling you out to see how much your willing to come closer to their asking price.
Example: I offer you $3000(I engage my silent mode)... You say Aw man there is no way I could sell it for that c'mon...... and I stare at you.....I'm waiting for you to say "I can do $3600-or whatever" But if they say nothing in 10 seconds... I look at the item and say "What are you willing to take today"
Hopefully they are reasonable and say "$3500"... If they do... Don't agree to nothing... Don't say how much you like the bike... Go inspect it again... check everything again...
They are watching... hoping you say "Ok"... but your not... Your going to make another offer.
Say "I don't see or hear anything major on the bike... but that's a tad more than I'm willing to go... Meet me in the middle somewhere... $3200 cash money in the hand...dollar bills that even smell proud.
Most reasonable people will agree... or asking for a tiny bit more like $3250... This isn't about $50 this is about who wins and who loses and that's up to you.
I will negotiate and make offers slowly on items worth thousands of dollars... when it starts getting to $50-$100 difference this is a pissing contest and can go either way. If I have to have it... I'll let them win and I usually say
"Ok $3250... but only because I love the bike but if I don't... I make my hard final offer and leave it open with a phone number.
I have had people call me 5 mins later up to 3 days later. Once it hits 48hrs I usually move on and figure they are not calling.
I hope this helps you guys wheel and deal... a little better. 99% of people will take a certain amount less for things they need/want to sell... The other 1% won't make a purchase unless it's a no brainer and won't f-ing budge on their prices even when the buyer knows a lot more about the item they are selling.
Avoid those people... they irritate me lol.
If this comes in handy please leave me some Rep points. I'm going to do some other write ups and videos for you guys. Ride safe!
FYI I paid asking price for my bike 2007 XB9R (3800 miles) Never downed with Jardine pipe/cover/rear stand. $3000 ... That's a no brainer. If you offer a person less during a no brainer... people get a bit pissy. Usually because they are already taking a loss or breaking even to move on. Keep this in mind when making offers.
This should be a sticky on how to negotiate... I've literally went to look at cars/bikes/firearms listed for $5000-$6000 and walked away with title in hand for $2900-3900
Only once did it take 3 days... and the guy called me and said "Hey man I been thinking and I'd like to accept your offer of $3700"
My reply was "Man I wish you had called me 2 days ago... I can only afford $3500 today, I'm sorry I had some repairs to take care of" (No bs... I only had $3500 left for my project)
His reply "That's fine come get the car" (Which his original price was $5000 but too me the car screamed "I'm worth $3500-$3800... Clean me, Paint me, tune me, mod me slightly and give me good rubber and now I'll be worth a solid $5500-6500 but only cost you $4500 total"
This was written to help a fellow bueller on a purchase where seller was asking $3900 for a 2007 Red XB9R all stock, very clean! 14K Miles and the buyer was thinking it was out of his $3000 price range.
That bike looks good but I know myself and other fellow Buellers wouldn't pay $3900 for one with 14K Miles. That's what a dealer would ask for that bike $3995...if it was mine with 6200 dealer would ask $4995. If I was interested in that bike, I would goto see it... Bring $3200 and a friend. Look real good at it, ride it if he will let you or ride bitch with him. If everything looks good, sounds good make him an offer.
Say "Well the bike looks good, but right now my concern is the price (DON'T STOP TALKING) Exactly how much are you looking to get out of this?"
Usually most people repeat their sale ad and say "I have it listed for $3900" and occasionally add "I'm pretty firm" or "Make me an offer"
Sometimes people say "As much as I can get" <<<< Those people either want extremely close to asking price or the opposite they want cash in hand today and are hoping somebody offers them $2900-3500 sooner than later.
No matter what they say... Just throw it out there without hesitation "I'm prepared to offer you $3000 Cash money today as long as you have a clear title in hand"
Don't say 2900 or twenty nine nada nonya... You'll kill the deal and have to back peddle.
Now that persons response is going to tell you if they are really willing to deal... or they never even considered taking less than say $3800.
Now this works both ways... not everyone who acts shocked during an offer really means it... They are feeling you out to see how much your willing to come closer to their asking price.
Example: I offer you $3000(I engage my silent mode)... You say Aw man there is no way I could sell it for that c'mon...... and I stare at you.....I'm waiting for you to say "I can do $3600-or whatever" But if they say nothing in 10 seconds... I look at the item and say "What are you willing to take today"
Hopefully they are reasonable and say "$3500"... If they do... Don't agree to nothing... Don't say how much you like the bike... Go inspect it again... check everything again...
They are watching... hoping you say "Ok"... but your not... Your going to make another offer.
Say "I don't see or hear anything major on the bike... but that's a tad more than I'm willing to go... Meet me in the middle somewhere... $3200 cash money in the hand...dollar bills that even smell proud.
Most reasonable people will agree... or asking for a tiny bit more like $3250... This isn't about $50 this is about who wins and who loses and that's up to you.
I will negotiate and make offers slowly on items worth thousands of dollars... when it starts getting to $50-$100 difference this is a pissing contest and can go either way. If I have to have it... I'll let them win and I usually say
"Ok $3250... but only because I love the bike but if I don't... I make my hard final offer and leave it open with a phone number.
I have had people call me 5 mins later up to 3 days later. Once it hits 48hrs I usually move on and figure they are not calling.
I hope this helps you guys wheel and deal... a little better. 99% of people will take a certain amount less for things they need/want to sell... The other 1% won't make a purchase unless it's a no brainer and won't f-ing budge on their prices even when the buyer knows a lot more about the item they are selling.
Avoid those people... they irritate me lol.
If this comes in handy please leave me some Rep points. I'm going to do some other write ups and videos for you guys. Ride safe!
