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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cooter" data-source="post: 625915" data-attributes="member: 15613">"12.75"... To the center of the pad". I meant on the centerline of the kickstand tube, parallel to the bike when it's down. That way the angle of the kickstand pad won't affect the measurement. Looks like you are measuring all the way to the end of the tip (snicker).All the Buells I've had either lean securely, or too far (when the pin is worn), but never too upright.So weird that it feels too long and on the tallest bike? I'd be looking at the bracket that bolts to the engine. Is it bent down? Spaced down? Is the kickstand tube bent?A classic, but ****:black_eyed:[MEDIA=youtube]oCwvmXNZR0Y[/MEDIA]</blockquote>