Nail hole in rear tire

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bbletterin

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I called myself posting this question an hour ago. Looking for advice, is it safe to patch or plug patch nail hole in Uly rear tire in center of tread. THe HD dealer won't patch only replace tire, it only has 4000 miles on the bike.
 
U can patch it I like the plug patches like this
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I intalled my own it maybe hard to find a shop to do it
 
yup you can... the real question is, do you really want to? your life could hang in the balance....put a new tire on and dont risk it.
 
Yep. Did my rear at like 75 miles. Has about 2k on it now and my pressure only went down 2psi all Minnesota winter long sitting in the garage
 
i have a plug in my tire right now. i got tagged by a nail at like 50 miles in. plugging is fine for the back, not for the front.
 
I heard this a few times , please think about it!!!
"when u have 2 tires, and one of them blows out, how many tires do you have left?? In a car u have 3 other tires!"


patching motorcycle tire is only acceptable in an emergency situation to get you home or to the shop to get a NEW tire only! a motorcycle tire flexs alot more than a car tire and rolls across from side to side when turning and some deflamaton of sorts in some extreme situatons , all that can make and let a plug or patch/plug combo loosen up and possibly leak or even come out.
 
a plug does not give me piece of mind when carving up the twisties...

to each their own tho
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ive seen plugs,patches and plug patches last the life of the tire and ive seen them fail in a week.if your broke and ride like my grand ma and have no other choice then you gotta do what you need to.you wont ever find me on a repaired tire my bike and my health is worth more than 200.00.
 
I plug my tires when I get a nail.

Failure of the tire to hold air as a result of a plug very rarely results in a catastrophic blow-out, you are just as likely to get another puncture from another source. Most likely outcome is a leak to flat and an inconvenience.

I've never had a plug fail on the many car or motorcycle tires I've plugged.

I'm ok with those odds.

YMMV,
Nels
 
Tire Sense
Common Sense Thoughts on Street Tires

Buying new tires for your motorcycle can be a bit of an investment and it’s one we all need to deal with from time to time. What kind of tires to select, how to take care of them and understanding all you need to know about them before you buy is an area few of us delve into. Instead we trust a dealer, an online newsgroup, or word of mouth. It’s time to take the bull by the horns and educate yourself about your tires. to be our brain trust.


Air Pressure
Simply put, most people don’t maintain their tire pressure with any regularity and typically run below the recommended p.s.i. levels. Case in point was when a local dealer recently checked the tire pressure of every street bike that came in for service over a two- week period. The numbers were added up and divided and the outcome was that the average bike had 9 pounds of pressure per square inch. At that rate a tire is breaking down internally and even if the p.s.i is finally increased, the damage has already been done.


Online vs. Store Bought
Think you’ll save money by buying your tires online? Think again. Unless you plan to mount those tires yourself, you won’t be saving any money at all and in most cases you’ll end up paying more. Once you arrive at a dealer or shop and ask to have your internet- bought tires mounted, you’ll most likely be paying the hourly shop rate to have the mounting done which negates your online savings. In addition, any reputable shop would decline from honoring the manufacturer warranty and won’t sell you their own warranty if they have one internally. The only thing they’re selling you is shop time.


Tire Warranties
There are two types of warranties for tires. A manufacturer warranty and a store-bought warranty.


Some manufacturers warranty all their tires;, others only cover some models. Find out before you buy and get the details about what is covered and length of coverage.


Some shops offer a store-bought warranty which can be a good way to go, but be sure you understand the details before you buy. Is the warranty transferable to your next buyer? How much tread wear is eligible before the warranty is nil, and so on.


What is Free Mounting?
Free mounting comes in two flavors. Off the bike, or on the bike. If your shop offers free mounting be sure you know which type. Off the bike simply means you remove the wheels from your bike and take them to the shop to get the tires mounted. On the bike means bring the whole bike in and they handle everything


Model Development
Some tires are designed before a model actually hits the market, others after. For instance the Dunlop K491 was developed for use on large touring bikes, the first such was Honda’s GL1500. It wasn’t until later that Avon developed the Venom X as an optional replacement, working with data that came from the wear on the Dunlop. Thus, in Avon’s mind they’ve built a better tire. When selecting a tire consider this if you’re going for the most advanced technology available.


Traction vs. Mileage
When it comes to choosing a tire, consider if you want more traction or more mileage out of the tire. Softer rubber provides better traction, but won’t last as long. The opposite is true on a firmer rubber compound.


Plugging a Blowout
At some point you have had, or will experience a blow out. Often times the only way to get to a dealer to replace the tire is to plug it. If you’re running steel belted tires, don’t expect the plug to last long., You’ll be lucky if you get 50 miles from either a mushroom or string plug, maybe longer with a bias-ply, maybe not. Bottom line is that once your tire has been punctured, it needs to be replaced as soon as possible. Unlike car tires, motorcycle tires don’t have the depth of tread to retain a plug for any length of time.


Tire Age
Tire age plays a factor. As years go by, rubber tends to harden and the traction that a new tire once had is gone. If your bike was sitting for 5 years in the garage, you probably want to consider tossing those treads, even if they only have a few miles on them.


Changing Air Pressure
Understanding air pressure is an art. More pressure when you’ve got a load, less when you’re mixing off-road travel into your adventures. Less pressure when it’s raining gives you more traction, use more pressure when it’s dry. It varies greatly from bike to bike and tire to tire as to just where you want your pressure each time you ride. Ask around, talk to others, call the manufacturer and study up.


Three Wheel
If you’ve got a side car or trike, you’re into another can of worms. That Venom X tire that’s so great on a Gold Wing is a poor choice if you have a sidecar. The tread was never developed for flat-down traction at all times. Instead, take time to talk with side car manufacturers, installers and tire manufacturers about the best rubber for your rig.nulllink
 
"You’ll be lucky if you get 50 miles from either a mushroom or string plug"

A statement like above does nothing to advance the credibility of the author IMHO.

Guess a whole lot of ppl including myself ought to go and buy lottery tickets since we're lucky. Many like myself have gotten 1000's of miles out of a plug or patch which when properly applied will easily last the life of the tire.

There's my experience. Let's see a show of hands from those who've had a properly applied patch or plug faill to hold air. Now let's see a show of hands that have had a catastrophic blowout result from a plug or patch.

YMMV,
Nels
 
Can I have my motorcycle tires repaired?



Some punctures in motorcycle tires can be repaired if no other damage is present. Dunlop recommends only individual permanent plug-patch repairs of small tread area punctures from within the demounted tire by a qualified tire repair shop or motorcycle dealer. Never perform an exterior repair and never use an innertube as a substitute for a proper repair. Your bike should not exceed 50 mph for the first 24 hours after the repair and the repaired tire should never be used over 80 mph. Dunlop speed ratings are voided by repairs.

No form of temporary repair should be attempted because secondary damage caused by the penetrating object may not be detected and tire or tube deflation may occur at a later date.

Dunlop does not recommend the use of liquid sealants. These are a form of temporary repair that may adversely affect ply material and mask secondary damage caused by the penetrating object. Reliance upon sealants can result in sudden tire failure and accident.




link to dunlop
 
Some punctures in motorcycle tires can be repaired if no other damage is present. Dunlop recommends only individual permanent plug-patch repairs of small tread area punctures from within the demounted tire by a qualified tire repair shop or motorcycle dealer. Never perform an exterior repair and never use an innertube as a substitute for a proper repair. Your bike should not exceed 50 mph for the first 24 hours after the repair and the repaired tire should never be used over 80 mph. Dunlop speed ratings are voided by repairs.

No form of temporary repair should be attempted because secondary damage caused by the penetrating object may not be detected and tire or tube deflation may occur at a later date.

Dunlop does not recommend the use of liquid sealants. These are a form of temporary repair that may adversely affect ply material and mask secondary damage caused by the penetrating object. Reliance upon sealants can result in sudden tire failure and accident.


Good info.

Nels
 
I have 2 tires that have the inside out patch/plug , never had a problem thousands of miles on them . On the safe side though, its best to replace the tire when you have a chance, im just cheap
 
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