Working on a friends softail, and I have a question.

[levi]

I've got a 1984 HD softail in my garage that needs an inner primary gasket set so I'm taking the whole primary off and I cant get the engine compensating nut/huge thirty something mm bolt to come loose.

MY books say it's reverse thread but I have a book for a 1979 and a 1985. I have close to zero experience working on this kind of motor but it's really not complicated at all if you've ever seen the inside.
I just really don't want to break my friends " new" bike.
In the left side of the picture is the guy I'm talking about.


Thanks guys

Levi

 

[Bossanova]

reverse thread.

 

[IYAOYAS]

Just had my buddy's Dyna apart, left hand thread.

 

[levi]

Cool man. I appreciate it.

Still won't break loose though.
In gear.
Big guy on the bike with the brakes on.
I'm putting a LOT of force on the bar trying to turn the nut.
It's slipping the clutch and turning the motor, but the front bolt aint going anywhere.
I need to lock the primary chain to get this guy out, so I'm going to look for a wee tool that locks it up.

Got any tricks?
Thanks again gents.

 

[anrkizm95]

you need a good impact or a locking bar placed between the gears.

 

[Bossanova]

I use a 1/2" electric impact.

 

[anrkizm95]

real simple to make

 

[levi]

yeah I need that locking bar.
I'll grab a chunk of steel and fab it up.

It's still not moving at all.

cheers guys you're awesome.

 

[nativeXb12Rbuell]

http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/index.php is a good forum with tech stuff for HD & sportsters and some buells too.

http://ebookee.org/Harley-Davidson-Motorcycle-Repair-Manuals-Mastertech-_931995.html

1984-HD-FXST-Service-Manual pdf download $10
http://harley-davidson.servicemanualvault.com/1984-HD-FXST-Service-Manual.html

http://www.ironheadcycle.com/pages/faq.html
http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-custom-zone/54774-help-engine-removal.html
http://www.hdforums.com/forum/evo-classic-models/304393-1985-evo-softail-engine-removal.html





here is a book for sportster on google
http://books.google.com/books?id=BX...&resnum=6&ved=0CEoQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

[squidbuellie]

use a plastic cutting board. cut it into 3) 1 1/2 x 5 in strips screw them together then wedge it in between the chain and clutch basket. do not use steel you will role over or brake the teeth off and fu_k your junk up

 

[levi]

Native,
You're a hero like Robert Deniro.

Thanks for the info. Reading the forums is telling me that they're on there really tight on every bodies bike.

This one has seen some really high temps and its oil has been watery garbage for a loong time. I have a feeling the high temps for long durations have helped to seize this part even further. Locking the sprockets down is what I need to do. After this I get to pull the clutch hub with a puller I don't have yet.

I have a bunch of standard three jaw pullers but I have a feeling this one is just a plate with holes in it. I'll fab it up if that's the case.

I'm glad I asked my question here. Thanks again.

 

[levi]

Here's a pic of the bike.

 

[levi]

use a plastic cutting board

squidbilly I used a polypropylene block first to try wedging it and the clutch shell moved anyway and milled a groove in the block. I need a very positive lock or I'm going to overpower it every time.

I realllly don't want to dick up the teeth on these sprockets either. Thx for the tip man.

 

[anrkizm95]

do not use steel you will role over or brake the teeth off and fu_k your junk up

the tool from harley is metal

 

[squidbuellie]

the tool from harley is metal

your right.. it's the right length and thickness but for the shade tree mechanic to play it safe and instead of buying the $95 tool or tearing your bike up go with the cutting board.
it is squid approved.

 

[squidbuellie]

oh yeah for the peanut thats going to pipe up. it's $25 for the one from ASB well its for a sportster and will not work on a big twin.
just take the chain tensioner off stick the wedge in the top of the clutch basket stick the bike in 3rd gear have someone stand on the rear brake and with a 2 foot breaker bar break the reverse nut off

 

[anrkizm95]

home depot 1/2 inch bar stock cut to fit 6.00.pic is for refrence da squid

 

[Livers]

Levi, I have the '84-'89 manual. The sprocket shaft nut is standard thread, it is the clutch hub nut that reversed/left hand thread. Just put together an '84 FXR and that is the way it worked. Doubt the softwhale is any different.

 

[levi]

The sprocket shaft nut is under what I'm trying to remove right?
I'm trying to remove the giant engine compensating unit that's thirty something millimeters. Everybody that I speak to is in agreement that it's left hand thread. As hard as it's been to remove, I'm prone to second guessing myself.

 

[Livers]

We are talking about the same nut. Whether there is a compensator sprocket on it or not doesn't matter. The shaft is the same. Righty-tighty, lefty-loosey. The spec is 100 ft/lb, it ain't that tight.