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XB9 for first bike?

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The right bike is out there for you, just keep an eye out on Craigslist (like njdevils said). The 9's are great bikes for beginners and are totally customizable once you feel you have the skillset (and the pocketbook) to add more power. I'm looking into one of the big bore kits to put on mine, I've heard (this could be a rumor) that a customized xb9 big bored to 1050 can make more power than the 1203's. I am looking forward to that. In any case, make sure the bike you purchase is the one you want. Don't let the money burn a hole in your pocket, it's ok to look at a bike and say no. A couple more weeks/months of heartache is worth the years of happiness with choosing the perfect bike. Good luck and ride safe.

-Ben
 
still shopping around, found a nice xb9s local. 10k miles and price is 4750 obo, seem high to anyone?

its an 03 with some mods
 
way too high. I payed 3800 for my 2003, 2 years ago with 11k miles. I know that was a little high then too.
 
i wouldn't let insurance be a driving factor. i would think any buell makes for a good first bike, predictable handling makes all the difference.

my 12ss = $260/year for insurance full coverage
 
lucky....riderinsurance quoted me at ~$600 for liability per year....but then again im under 25 and have points from 2 years ago
 
My first bike was an xb9r loved it until I blew the motor from 25000 beat to piss miles. Now throwing in an xb12 motor. And believe me if you buy the xb9 your gonna be happy with it
 
njdevils1990 - riders wanted $540 this year from me, got a good quote from progressive. i'm 41 and no points so i'm sure that matters, but in NJ as well.
 
I'd recommend a XB9 or XB12 as a first bike. They're about the same from what I hear. One just favors revs over torque. I started on a SV650, as have many others. It's the gladius essentially, the previous version. Same engine.

The XB12 isn't much quicker, to be honest. It's got a little more of a grunt pull than the SV650 in the midrange, maybe 15-20% more, but they're both slightly too much for a beginner in the upper rpms (as in pulls out from under you, almost). You can get yourself in trouble on either if you dick around, they both felt equally "dangerous" to me as I learned (1 year on the SV, then the XB). However, the powerband is so linear, that it's predictable and you won't find yourself in trouble unless you deliberately do it. So, the power is perfect for a beginner. You won't outgrow it quickly, and it's predictable. I4's have a less linear powerband, and the sudden power peaks can be spell disaster for a beginner.

Being that the power is manageable on both for a beginner, I vote Buell for handling. The hardest thing to get used to on a bike is maneuvering the 400+lbs. The Buell just has a lower center of gravity, and literally feels like throwing around a bicycle at times. It feels like a 200lb-300lb bike. The SV has a higher center of gravity, and feels heavier. You're more likely to drop it on a mistake. You need a lot of muscle to save it from tipping on a mistake, the Buell you'll barely notice the weight shift. I'm talking slow rolling in a parking lot, where most drops happen. The only downfall I can list, is that I feel like I'm spoiled with the Buell, and wouldn't be able to handle another bike afterwards because I've been spoiled with the bicycle low gravity feel.

Only edges I'd give to the SV, are cheap mods/parts availability because the engines are everywhere, reliability, and smoothness. The Buell shakes the ground and almost feels rough at times, takes getting used to.

Oh, the Buell is also easier not to stall due to the powerful torque, and to launch from hills, etc. That could help a beginner.

So, the Buell is the better bike for power, handling, etc, without being too much. The SV just has the edge in parts/reliability.

Oh, another side note. I vote Buell again if you plan on any highway cruises. That's where both bikes fail, in my opinion. They don't pull hard on the highway, and sit at high rpms. But, the 650 just loses too much, the Buell is comfortable pulling about 20mph more. In other words, the SV/Gladius feels like you're pushing it around 60-70mph and doesn't pull great. The Buell is comfortable cruising until 75ish. Something to keep in mind if you're on the highway. They both obviously accelerate past those points, but the SV is sitting at like 6k rpms screaming down the highway. The XB isn't much better because it has 1 less gear, so it's at like 4k rpms. Both suck for highway cruising, but at least the XB is a little quieter and more comfortable.
 
still shopping around, found a nice xb9s local. 10k miles and price is 4750 obo, seem high to anyone?

its an 03 with some mods
Too high, $3000 to $3400 tops in my book. A friend of mine got an 09 XB12R last month with 1500 on it for $4700.
 
A friend who had a SV650 road my XB12Ss. He said there is a huge difference. Particularly in passing situations.

The XB9 is an awesome first bike.

Take the rider's edge course rather than the course offered at your local community college. 6 to 8 per class instead of 12 to 24 plus Buell blast 500 instead of Chinese 250's.
 
XB9 was my first bike....ever. Bought it brand new Dec '09, shortly after they quit making them. Its a great bike, I love riding on the local mountain roads. Xb9 has plenty of power but not so much that its a deathtrap.
 
yeah, I had roughly 20 people in mine but it was good to see what not to do from the ones that had no business on a bike. This one guy(pushing 70 years old) dropped his bike 3 times and he finally quit.
 
I would stand behind the Buell as a great first bike for reasons (some already stated):

Great, neutral riding position allows you to focus on the road instead of the discomfort you might have on other more "rakish" bikes

Wide torque-band of engine discourages excessive shifting which can be confusing to a newbie, and also mis-shifts prior to (or worse, mid-turn) which can cause a bike to drift out (too high a gear) or break traction (too low a gear).

also the relatively low redline won't mean too much chance for low gear wheel-poppers (accidental)

there can be some niggling maintenance issues on older bikes and HD Dealers are hit or miss. here in pittsburgh I've encountered jerks at Hot Metal HD, jerks in the showroom at Gatto (but super awesome guys in the shop that actually allowed me to come in unannounced and do my own work in the shop) and nothing short of Buell race-shop at New Castle HD. -so not sure what it's like down in Central Pa (battlefield HD? and others).

xb9 is reasonably low powered and with 240lbs of person to move - you won't be over-accelerating soon (that is not meant to be offensive)- I am refering more to the engine (I have a xb12).
 
I did not see the earlier post re: sv650

My brother in law got one as his second bike and then moved onto a BMW r1150r and kept the SV. I rode the SV here and there for a couple summers before I had my Buell.

The SV is a great bike, for much of the same reasons the Buell engine makes it very flexible and manageable for first timers.

however, the SV is more "bent over" in terms of riding position.

pretty reliable bike (the sv) is, however.

and can be had cheap -presumably a lot less than a used Buell (with similar miles on it)
 
The MSF course i am taking is only 11 riders. 22 in a joined classroom and then split for rider training on the bike
 
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