i tried them on, hey have a zip out waterproof liner, and very good armor. I wear a 33 x 32 pant, and I had to send back mediums for a pair of large.
i unzipped the liner and put them on, GREAT fitting pant. I wont be able to test ride them for a few weeks as my leg finishes up healing.
but when i go start riding again, i'll be AGATT, thanks to some of the folks on here.