Buell concept bike

[maybebuell]

What makes you think the vrod lump costs more than a rotax lump? Are we forgetting buell had to design the roxax unit? The vrod is an existing unit that they would have access to. I would bet it would be cheaper. I would like it more just because it has more low and midrange power. But the cost objective is not valid.

.....buell did not design the rotex there are other motorcycles over seas that run the rotex motor in sport bikes...i believe its an australian company they build motors for other big name motorcycles also......vrod motor would not be more money than a rotex probably less

 

[maybebuell]

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Don't think for a second Buell riders don't want towin races on the street. If your bike did and would you'd be happier with your bike more so then now. If they put a V-Rod engine in it. You and I most likely wouldn't buy it because it would be much more expensive. That would push consumers to buy the Gixxer or R1 for thousands less. Expect if it was to happen you are looking at 17-20 thousand dollar bike. All of the sudden the Rotax looks even more attractive because I can almost buy 2.
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all motorcycles and cars ect ect and everything else.are over priced..one good thing over the next few years you will be paying a few thousand less for all motorcycles pic your spots and make a deal r1 and gixers are more money a 600 runs close to 9000 or more thats crazy and the 1000 on up are more....

 

[BadS1]

The V-Rod motor is much more. That was also asked of Flickinger. And yes Buell did design the engine. The degree is what makes it fit in the frame. Buell worked hand and hand with Rotex trust me.

 

[Roccodart440]

So why not make the concept bike with the 1125? What is better about the VRod wngine? I still don't see it?

Buell owners care about power and buell has finally started impressing more of the masses with this 1125. I think that needs to continue.

 

[1001yos]

Call me crazy, but I'm still pumped about the purity of the existing firebolt. It's the rawest form of a motorbike around and still one kickass bike. I guess I'm kind of a purist. The V-rod engine could be used, but I think that wont change any ammount of sales. The "masses" are still driven by stats and top specifications. The Buell will never be there, but will have more character than any other bike in my opnion.

 

[BadS1]

1001yos,

My feeling the same. Man.... a year ago I knew what was about to be a couple days before release of the 1125 and I went down to my dealer two days before having Erik and band playing at my bar and put 500 down for the first to come through the doors. Then Sunday came at Road America and and we all got to see it. I then changed my mind 24 hours later. I like the engine on the 1125r and thats it. To me the bike looks like a mixture of past bikes. Front fairing. It looks like a XBRR with lights. Everything else it looks like a firebolt from 2003 to present. When I bought my XB. It had a fresh look as far as the appearance was concerned. Thats what I'm waiting on and I'm patient.

 

[Tork]

The 1125 motor is not an off-the-shelf item. Rotax built the 1125 motor to Buell's specifications. That motor is not used in any other bike. Other bikes may have a Rotax motor, but not the 1125 motor.

Personally, I'm not a fan of any efforts to put the V-Rod motor in an XB. It's a nice motor for the V-Rod, but it's not what the XB needs. I think that by the time you make the necessary modifications necessary to fit and run the V-Rod mill, you'd end up with a 500 lb bike that wouldn't be as flickable as the XB we currently enjoy.

I'm not saying the XB platform couldn't use a more refined and powerful motor (I think the Rotax is a step in the right direction), but the V-Rod motor is better suited as a cruiser motor. The XB's trademark characteristics are torque and handling. That's what makes them fun. Sacrifice either for trying to keep up with the I4s in the straights and you've robbed the XB of it's soul.

Just my .02
-Tork

 

[XBear9S]

How did we get a V-Rod motor into an XB. That's not where this conversation started. It was about another person who came up with a Buell-like design built around a V-Rod engine. Or so I thought.

It was visually appealing, and it seemed (to me) that a V-Rod engine in a nice sportbike frame might, could be, a fun thing to see in reality.

Would it out-perform any Buell. Well, probably not. Would that make it less worth doing. Probably not.

There's a market out there for American V-twin Sportbikes. Right @ the moment, Buell owns that market. I just think that competition could/would be a good thing, and that if someone was able to build a bike as pretty as the one in the link, and then get it to perform @ the level any Buell is performing @ these days, that would be awesome.

I repeat; the 1125's that are out right now, hold no interest to a die-hard Bueller such as myself. So, anyone who wanted to niche market to someone like me, has a chance of finding a Customer.

Robtk! a.k.a. "Special K"

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed, (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of V-Twin Riding Hooligans, all of them imaginary."

--H.L. MenckenBuelly

 

[maybebuell]

bear...i thnk a vrod motor in a buell will out perform the buells make today..has just as much tq and and probably 25...30 more hp..against the rotex probably not...bumping up the compression and cam change from the factory would take care of that..i like the looks of the buells just dont like a motor that need lots of maintenance and at 50.000 is look at as high mileage needing a rebuild.....vrod motor for the most part will have far less problems and much longer life...thats part of the fun factor also