Code 13 Always lean

[Cooter]

Edit: Ok, too harsh. Sorry.

I'm so dang tired of the tribalism and negativity on here lately

That is why we are losing members. Is it too much to ask to share motorcycle stories and knowledge in a pleasant manner

 

[casual_observer]

and you wonder why some think most of you replys suck

If you can do better, man up and contribute.

 

[casual_observer]

By "dick" do you mean "someone who called out someone for being a whiner"? If so, then yes I am am dick.

That guy whines about everything, derails conversations, gives half-assed non committal replies. You at least make the effort and put your neck out there and offer advice. Right or wrong, you are at least contributing to the general good of the forum.

 

[Outlaw]

Which Dick did you get rid of ? If your talking about John you best watch your mouth.

 

[njloco]

What did I miss ?

 

[casual_observer]

Which Dick did you get rid of ? If your talking about John you best watch your mouth.

I'm sure he was talking about 36whateverteen guy. Cooter is a quality guy.

 

[outthere]

And my post, #20 was aimed at post #19.

 

[The Pilot]

Well update to the update, decided to try loading the original tune again and did another TPS reset. Bike runs fine on the original tune, put 50 miles on it... no check engine light, no code 13, no stumble on the highway. Guess it was an issue with the tune Buelltooth sent me after all. I can definitely tell it’s running lean on the stock file with the aftermarket exhaust... the lean pops on decel are ridiculous. Anyway, I’ll hit up Buelltooth and see if they have another version they can send me...

Thanks for all the help ����

 

[mmcn49]

Well update to the update, decided to try loading the original tune again and did another TPS reset. Bike runs fine on the original tune, put 50 miles on it... no check engine light, no code 13, no stumble on the highway. Guess it was an issue with the tune Buelltooth sent me after all. I can definitely tell it’s running lean on the stock file with the aftermarket exhaust... the lean pops on decel are ridiculous. Anyway, I’ll hit up Buelltooth and see if they have another version they can send me...

Thanks for all the help ����

Do you have the Old version of ECMSpy, (for 03-07 Buells)?

 

[The Pilot]

I have the most current version of ECMspy, but the tune was uploaded with ECM droid as sent to me with no changes. Only got spy just to make sure the map was not jumbled up like I have seen happened to some other people after I found out I had a problem.

 

[mmcn49]

I have the most current version of ECMspy, but the tune was uploaded with ECM droid as sent to me with no changes. Only got spy just to make sure the map was not jumbled up like I have seen happened to some other people after I found out I had a problem.

I've used the old ECMSpy & MLV to tune with good results. With the old ECMSpy you're able to get a 3D view of the fuel and timing maps. Comparing the maps makes it pretty easy to see where there are substantial differences. If you know the approximate throttle position and RPM where the issues are happening, you can smooth out cells in the problem area.

 

[Chef]

Okay, having read through this thread, arguments and tuning aside, I have the same problem and have done the same things on The Pilot's list. The only difference is that I'm running an APH exhaust but free-flow none the less. I have also gone back and forth with stock vs race eeprom. the problem always remains. I've also renewed inlet seals. Even got the standard ones to seal! Third attempt, anyway. My plugs, however, confirm that the rear cylinder is running a bit lean and the front is running rich. I've disabled the O2 sensor making changes by taking off open and closed loop learn and setting the max afv and ego corrections to 100. So, where now? would/ could a head gasket leak cause this intermittent fault and lean code? Any other ideas?

Thanks.

 

[The Pilot]

Well Chef, it probably won’t help you but for my issue I finally just got a new IDS ECU. Installed it today and the bike runs fantastic, no more code 13 at cruise at any speed. Engine seems smoother on the highway as well. Lots of pull... feels like a different bike.

 

[upaero]

Sorry for just seeing this. I know this is an old thread, but the AFV should not change from 100 on that Buelltooth tune. If open loop is enabled it will adjust itself lean (into the 90s). When using the file as it was sent to you the O2 sensor is still active to warn you if there is lean condition caused by a mechanical problem. If closed loop is enabled that will cause a problem. I run that same tune on my 2005 XB12 without issue.