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Hou Buell

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Im a newbie here so I can't seem to figure out the search on this forum very well yet. So sorry for asking a question that has probably been answered a million times. But when you do an oil change is just draining the swing arm all you need to do? Or is dropping that bolt under the crank necessary? And if that is necessary how much more oil should I add in?
 
You have to drain the swingarm, replace the oil filter and add 2.5 qt fresh oil and check oil level when it is hot. Oil under crank needs to be replaced each 10000 miles, if it is 5000 miles oil change it is not necessary. User manual which should be sourced with the motorcycle has the process description.
 
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How come? Is it all the same oil or does the oil in the crank not mix with the oil in the swing arm? Because if it is all the same wouldn't you want to change it completely?
 
They are separated cavities. By the way the most important thing in oil change do not strip the oil plug threads. Tighten the plug with bare hand, do not use torque wrench.
 
Ok. When you put the plugs back in should you use thread sealer? Knowing how these bike vibrate I feel like you would need too. And thank you I had no idea they where separated areas!
 
Yes, use Loctite 565 thread sealant. I also drilled holes in my plugs and secured them with safe wire. Also secure the oil filter with wire, it can unscrew due to vibrations.


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Nice to see another member who knows about safety/lock wire! Nice job!

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crank drain plug
oil in crank mixing with swingarm
draining the crank
safety wired drain plugs
safety wired oil filters
thread sealant on drain plugs
NO mention of factory drain plug O-rings.

THIS THREAD IS SO WRONG on so many fronts it's actually quite humorous
 
Lol I agree but that is what's in the manual. I change it whenever I do the engine oil.
 
I agree, most manuals are way off in my opinion. I change my oil every 3000 miles, sooner if the oil gets too black. The primary oil I used to change every other oil change but I do every oil change and the bike shifts much smoother.
 
So just drian the swingarm then? I wasnt talking about changing the primary oil. But i have read/heard that you need to drain the little allen bolt on the right side of the bike to get all the pil out. Just trying to figure out if that holds any truth.
 
Even if the primary oil has half the interval as the crankcase/swing-arm, it's one quart exactly.
For just $10 might as well change it every time. Takes not but an extra minute.
 
So just drian the swingarm then? I wasnt talking about changing the primary oil. But i have read/heard that you need to drain the little allen bolt on the right side of the bike to get all the pil out. Just trying to figure out if that holds any truth.
let me walk you thru this before you start removing unnecessary fittings, strip out threads, cause leaks that had previously not existed. NOTE: all info from memory...several IMO's offered up.....having owned over 20 buells this is what works for me. it may NOT work for you.
1-do what carlos said and as time permits go to his link and download service manual for your year and model.
2-there are only TWO drain plugs: swingarm plug and plug bottom slightly aft of center on primary drive cover. they interchange as do the O-ring on each. do NOT remove any other plug or fastener under the driveline. clean each magnet thoroughly, do not use thread locker or sealant, replace O-ring IF it appears flattened or nicked. see link below i have provided. TEN CENTS each.
3-2007 and up toyota yaris/scion 1.5L vehicles take precisely same filter as all XB model buells. i avoid house-brand discount mart filters like the plague. buy quality, price shop, pick up a few, change it at every oil change. FILL THE FILTER with oil prior to installing same.
4-DO NOT rely on listed torque settings in the service manual for drain plugs. some of those printings showed false torque values resulting in stripped threads. rule of thumb is either have a pro show you what "sufficiently snug" is or use new updated revised torque values. this is not rocket science. using a standard 5/8th inch box or swivel head wrench with 8 inch handle just snug up the plugs till taut. you can feel it when sufficiently taut.
5-swingarm holds 2.5 US quarts of oil with full warm drain of 20 minutes minimum.....primary holds 1 US quart. the oil inside the primary cover also lubricates the transmission.
6-if consistently riding in temps of 50 degrees F or higher use 20-50 in both swingarm and primary. any quality conventional or synthetic oil works nicely in the swingarm. XB motors reasonably gentle on oil. i prefer castrol, rotella or any cycle specific 20-50 that happens to be on sale. they're all good. if subjecting motor to constant red-line shifts and extraordinarily high city style stop and go temps then consider a full true synthetic. 3000 mile oil change pretty much rule of thumb with these bikes OR at END of riding season regardless of accrued mileage.
7-amsoil motorcycle 20-50 seems to work best in the primary and i've tried them all. i change it every other time i change the motor oil. you can refill the primary thru either the top window or derby cover window. makes no difference.
8-safety wired filters and plugs for the race-track crowd and waste of time for street ridden bike. i've changed oils and filters at least 500 times now on these XB's and if all above items installed correctly they will NOT come loose or leak.
9-oil additives for motor and primary complete waste of money. XB's have a "wet-clutch" style system. contrary to popular opinion the primary fluid does NOT lubricate the clutch pack...it only "mists" the clutch plate ears to assist with engagement/disengagement of the clutch pack. it also cools the clutch pack. that is it. whatever primary fluid you choose to use it MUST be JASO MA rated and specifically designed to be "wet-clutch" compatible.

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