D&D pipe

[blackedout]

I think I have decided to go with the D&D for my 9s. Does anyone have any experience with this pipe or any sound clips? Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

[AdrianXB9SX]

You can download the exhaust shootout here:
Exhaust Shootout

It includes audio files of the D&D on the XB9. I'm going with the D&D also. It sounds awesome.

This was all done by www.americansportbike.com

 

[Highspdlowdrag]

d&d sucks no power gain if thats what your in it for, other wise stay stock or jardine for the best power.

 

[Tork]

Blackedout, to answer your question, I have a D&D on my XB12R. Many of Buellers I ride with have Jardines. As with any exhaust mod, you'll also want to open up your intake to let more air in (K&N filter, airbox mods, etc.). The D&D, like the Jardine, is loud and fairly obnoxious, if that's what you like (I do). Both pipes are also similar in that they both lose a little on the bottom, are strong in the midrange and taper off again toward the top. I personally like the torque curve, as it pulls hard in the rpm range where I typically ride. If you look at the dyno charts on ASB, you'll see that the Jardine curves are smoother and it squirts out a little more torque and horses at the very top of chart, and the D&D has a distinctive midrange boost in torque that makes for spirited car passing and launching out of corners.

I think both pipes perform similarly, but they differ in two main areas: price and construction. The Jardine typically needs disassembly and repacking every so often and some of the earlier production runs had some quality issues. I don't know if that's an issue any longer (current Jardine owners chime in). The D&D is built like a tank and has a built in jack plate for lifting the bike. It requires no repacking or maintenance. The D&D is considerably more expensive, but I think my exhaust will last as long as my bike. I don't know if the Jardine would last as long.

Bottom line from me is that both pipes are loud, sound nasty, and make decent power in the mids. The Jardine curves are smoother, but the D&D has a nice midrange rush. If money is tight, get the Jardine. It's a decent can. If you've got some extra scratch, the D&D might be serve you better over the long haul. Either way, you can't go wrong.

 

[LeFox]

d&d sucks no power gain if thats what your in it for, other wise stay stock or jardine for the best power.

i would really try and do some more research [smirk]

 

[blackedout]

Thanks Tork, that is what I have been waiting to hear. I do think that I will go with the D&D because of the midrange rush. That is where I like to be. Thanks for the input. Now if I can just get the 09 XB12s out of my head I can concentrate on my 9s.

 

[LeFox]

Now if I can just get the 09 XB12s out of my head I can concentrate on my 9s.

easy...according to the '09 model release, there is no '09 xb12s

 

[v12tiger]

on top of what was already mentioned w/ k&n and open air box, would also recommend an ecm remap from ASB and re-routing the breather hose..

i have the d&d on my 07 12r and all of the above, very nice combo w/ the addition of the custom ecm remap designed specifically for the d&d

 

[blackedout]

easy...according to the '09 model release, there is no '09 xb12s

Yeah I know, I just can't decide if I would like the scg or ss.

 

[samcol]

I have the D&D pipe on my 05 xb12s and love it. I actually wish it was a bit louder. I have the race ecm and a K&N air filter, but want to get it custom tuned sometime.

The ASB tests did say the D&D was a better match on the 12 than the 9 with race ecm if I remember correctly. Might want to get a custom map, I know I do.