ECMRead and TunerPro

[theoctopus]

Strange. I confess I have not yet tried to flash an .xpr file to my ECM, and I receive those same errors when I fetch. I wonder if there is some problem with the overall method. I will investigate further.

 

[bguinn]

Octo if I understood some of your other posts, you fetch the eeprom with ecmspy, make changes to the hex file and burn changes in ecmspy. How do you know what cells to change in the hex file? You said you make changes and compare in excel, what program do you use to make the changes so you know what cells you changed? If you are using Tunerpro, how to you get it back to an excel readable file type?

Sorry to be such a pain, I'm just trying to figure it out.

 

[xoptimizedrsx]

how are you guys loading to tunerpro? how did you save the file?

1. fetch two copies of the data one backup one to modify.
2. open tunerpro and load your xdf file from ecmspy.
3. click file top left and click import bin select. (dont worry click bin even though you dont have it named that it will import) choose you file to modify to import.

3A. in the lower righ click file type select (*) type.

3B. click import or ok depending on version.

4. make changes to the data when on the popup (diaglog boxes) if you see a save button click it. this saves the changes on that section to the xpr.
5. now click the file button again save select the file type (*) again. this will save it as the same file type it loaded with . (the xpr)

6. go to ecmread click burn. open the file you just saved. then burn.

poof its in the ecm.


Not the file types save is the most common mistake I see. plus the ecmread is made to read all ecms small page count to large. if a section is not in your ecm it will show be default a error. which means you dont have the data or it doent see that cell location. cause its not there.


hope it helps some.

octo: i sent you a message on rewriting the how to move files from A to B and back. I'll also get you the full details on moving the files to tunerpro/mlv/ecmread or ecmspy. i'll continue to keep you updated as I update the databank. I also sent you the xpr list from 1999 ecms to 2010 and a few goodies. have fun with it..

I guess I will be forced to use english and mahe a how to post on my website with pics.. arghhhh
mike

 

[bguinn]

Hi Mike,
It seems you are also answering and working with me on Buelletin Board. I did try a fetch and then tried to burn the same .xpr file back without any modifications in TunerPro. It was just a straight ECMREAD fetch an burn and still got the same error saying 3412 does not match file BUEZD.

 

[theoctopus]

Try modifying a single fuel cell and then burning back. It's possible that without modification, ECMRead doesn't find any changes to burn to the ECM. I'm not sure if it actually burns FULL eeproms, or just variations in the eeprom already on the bike.

 

[xoptimizedrsx]

go re download ecmread from ecmspy. Then reinstall it will get the latest file version 2.6.1. once installed restart the computer.

you may have a older version of ecmread as it has been updated.

Just like the xdf files always check to see if you have the latest.

 

[bguinn]

Okay, I'll get the latest and greatest of both and give it another try as well as change one cell in the map to see if that makes a difference.

Thanks again guys.

 

[bguinn]

Mike, that was it. Apparently I had an older version of ECMREAD, or got a bad install.

I uninstalled, downloaded the newest revision from ecmspy.com, and reinstalled, rebooted computer and tried.

I uploaded the stock eeprom and downloaded the eeprom and it worked. I then tried downloading my modified eeprom with adjusted fuel, timing maps, and disabled servo and it took that.

I then unplugged my servo emulator and started bike. Bike started,ran and reved fine and there was no CEL for the servo being unplugged.

It is raining today so I cannot take it out for a ride to see if it made much difference. This now gives me the capabilities to do what I wanted to do now.

Do either of you have any good tuning advice, or other cells I should modify to get the best tune possible.

Thanks,
Brian

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[xoptimizedrsx]

he he I get more rep points....

I forwarded this too Octo so he can keep you guys posted here.. I dont come here as much as he does. I try to keep him updated out side of here almost daily on what we are doing and what we have found.

I had him join our skunkworks on the other fourm a while ago. this way he is always in the good info. some he can post some he cant. but eventually everything post. we already have a new program to flip the data files to mlv format. next we add in goodies. you guys will like it when done.

 

[bguinn]

Of course you get rep points. I'll be giving them to Octo too, but there is a 2 minute rule on giving points.

Thanks again and any other pointers are always helpful. Now I just need to get my head wrapped around where to put more and less fuel to get my bike running the way I want.

 

[theoctopus]

What are the current modifications to your bike?

 

[bguinn]

Just a Hawk Exhaust and breather reroute, which seemed to wake it up in the middle and top end a little. I get a lot of decel pop, even when just shifting gears (even shifting up). And there is a lot of vibration almost like bogging when under 3000 rpm. That was there with the stock pipe as well.

I have been looking at other maps from previous year bikes, and their numbers seem a lot lower than my stock fuel maps.

 

[theoctopus]

Yep. The 08+ ECM's come WAYYYYYYY rich.

 

[xoptimizedrsx]

does duck tape count as a mod. lol

How about a turkey pan wired underneath it. lol



The 04 up also comes with way too much timing up top. no typo, i meant 04 up 08 it gets worse..

see live data on the 4 gas and hp/tq to dyno with this and you will see its way to much.. egt, co2 no and ect are wild.

mike

 

[bguinn]

I am going to try running my bike where I have it set right now and see how it runs. If everything still runs close to the same, I may try to lean out the the 50 TPS 2150-2900 rpm range by about 5%. Maybe that will smooth out some of my cruising speed jerking. Those cells seem really rich.

On a side note, Mike I seen one of your posts a while back where you were asking if anybody had any ideas for a front muffler strap that was easier to change out than the factory strap. My front muffler strap broke and I got tired of waiting for the warranty replacement strap, so I went to out local industrial hardware store. They sell the same 5* brand clamps as the Buells use as well as another kind that attaches just like a regular screw type hose clamp. It is the same quality and finish as our stock ones. If I'm not mistaken it was a 6" hose clamp with only the last 2" available for tightening. I bought 2 of them for $5.35 and I didn't have to remove my muffler mount.

 

[bguinn]

Well, that generic tuning application didn't work, so I ended up reloading my stock eeprom.

The bike ran okay, just hotter for some reason, and a little rougher below 4000 rpms.

I guess now I need to look more into the megalog tuning to try to figure where I need to change things.

All in all the bike runs well when above 3000 rpms. I'd just like to get it smoothed out below 3000 rpms.

 

[Arkitek]

I'm messing with tunerpro rt v5 today and for some reason i cannot get turnerpro to detect the ecm... i can use ecmspy and ecmread just fine but tunerpro will not detect. When i go to test the connection however using their test function it says try to connect at a baud rate of 8126 or something like that. Is there somewhere to configure 9600 baud rate instead or am i missing something else?

i have a 2010 xb12r
BUE1D 06-2009

 

[Arkitek]

OK i figured out what i was missing... i had to edit some of the payload communication settings on the .adx file. Once i set it the body size and payload to 135 it was able to communicate and datalog. I took a recording of it idling and revving it up a bit. I have another problem now with the fuel maps appearing way screwed up... the numbers are all over the place here... any ideas on why its like this?? [confused]

 

[bguinn]

Open up a fuel map either front or rear. Doesn't really matter, you will have to do this for both.

Once the map is open, go to the top to the XDF tab, scroll down to "view/edit parameter xdf info...", go to the bottom to colums tab, and click the lsb first box on the right in the middle. APPLY, and your maps should be fine.

You will have to do this for both the front, rear, and timing tables. There are several others, but most will not matter to you. You will probably never use them.

 

[Arkitek]

Yes that was the trick! Thank you much bguinn!