hawk versus buell race exhaust

[gtp3800]

does anyone have a comparison? power and sound. Ive been searching but haven't seen these 2 compared much. I have a hawk, just picked up a race pipe, just curious as to how different they will be. Ive had my hawk pipe since I bought the bike back in winter of 09.

also to all you ecm tuning guru's. I do have ecm spy, haven't used it yet. but is there a map I can use for a race pipe with a k&n air filter? or is there a way I can get help tuning the bike? I know it needs a tune, and a tps reset, but i haven't attempted to do it myself yet.

 

[50dro]

The Hawk will be (much) louder. Depending on the year of your bike, there are race maps that match the race pipe out there on the "interwebs." Check out buellmods.com.

 

[gtp3800]

The Hawk will be (much) louder.

so the race pipe is that much quieter? I like the loudness of the hawk.

 

[50dro]

Yes, although I've only had limited interactions with the race can. A friend had one on his bike. It was pretty tame at an idle and leaving my driveway. I can't speak for it's sound under load but I'm sure others here can.

 

[snrusnak]

A guy on here that I ride with has a race can and it's not that loud. Sounds good, I'd say similar to a stock 12 muffler with the valve wired open.

 

[gtp3800]

hmmm well if I don't like it I can always try another brand later I suppose!

 

[50dro]

I can't say I've heard too many people complain about them. They demand lots of money on Ebay in good condition so you always have that going.

It really depends on how much you want to bother your neighbors! Haha! I just installed the Torque Hammer II on mine. To be honest, I was concerned at idle as I thought it wasn't loud enough, but after twisting the throttle during a ride all that changed. It has a very aggressive yet controlled sound. Perhaps the Race Can is the same?

We recently did a Buell exhaust SPL (sound pressure level) study. If you want loud, then go either with the D&D or the Hawk. Unfortunately, the race exhaust wasn't included in the study.

 

[UMDterp13]

Hawk is louder but race is deeper & lighter. Hawk was nice tho for a modified pipe

 

[gtp3800]

I guess ill have to just test it out when it gets here! I need to learn how to get into ecm spy to tune it for the pipe and k&n thats my main concern now. even with the hawk on the bike now, I have never tuned it.

 

[50dro]

There's lots of reading out there. It's fairly simple though after you get over the initial intimidation.

 

[gtp3800]

yea thats what I hear, I have pages bookmarked in a folder called ecmspy for dummies.

but in there is thread after thread, and instructions so I just have to get over that initial intimidation

 

[50dro]

HMU if you need help...

 

[snrusnak]

gotta ask what's HMU???

 

[s0dhi]

My guess is it's "Hit Me Up".

 

[gtp3800]

gotta ask what's HMU

lol

*laugh out loud*

 

[snrusnak]

aghhhhh..... [up]

I'm not hip or jive...

 

[gtp3800]

and thanks 50dro, you will probably be hearing from me then

 

[snrusnak]

lol. My buddy loves his race can, just am saying it's not as loud.

 

[gtp3800]

I'm sure ill love it. Ive had the hawk for 3 years now and I'm just ready for something different. plus like I said the hawk pipe is breaking apart on the inside. I hear parts rattling around in the pipe when I shake the bike. its like clumps of weld cracked off or the valve is broken somewhere. who knows.

Id like to think Id get more power out of the race can as well.

 

[50dro]

gotta ask what's HMU???

Haha! Sorry! Yes...hit me up (ie. contact me) I guess I'm on these darn forums too much! LOL (<<<laugh out loud!)

Not sure I'm "hip" or "jive" either!