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I know from some private conversations that there is a lot of Active/Retired LEO on this forum. Just wanted to say thanks for all you guys and the service you do. Just read about the shooting in Ferguson last night. Not very impressed by the way the U.S. Attorneys Office is handling this. It's a bad situation all the way around. The actions of a few are impacting us all. Thanks again for the thin blue line.
John
 
very kind words from you as usual john. thanks for taking the time to post and for the sentiments.
extremely well said and written brett. you nailed it as usual.
retired PA. State Police detective here who appreciates the above sentiments.
 
Always respect the Badge!
Not sure how that got lost in translation over the generations. If you do not like what's going on, respect the badge first, then sort out what you do not like using the proper channels. I do not agree with everything the police did, or did not do..... People are so naive like not knowing that police are just people working within a system. Not robots, but people, some members of the community they work in. Also I believe since they are people it is not going to be perfect, and there are flaws, abuses, and humanity will happen. There needs to be accountability for those carrying out this public service, just as we have for being responsible citizens. There is some checks and balances and more may be needed, and public outcry holds a lot of weight. It is our responsibility as free people to be involved in a positive way and teach the next generation that there is a greater community of good in most places, if not then start one or move. My Dad was a single parent in Chicago in the 70's and I was the oldest, talk about getting your arse kicked by gangs, police, schools, and everyone. He moved us to the suburbs, Glendale Heights, commuted 80 miles each day basically saving me from a fallen life when I was in the 4th grade. My Dad had my back, RIP Pops, It would have been a different story for me, not a good one if my Dad was not involved in my life very Early on. We need to be alert about what is happening in our communities, and react in a positive way to make a difference, just like riding a motorcycle. Heard a stat that there is more than 100,000 identified gang members in Chicago that deal heroin, I think that is more people than in any single branch of our military? Just think about all the other cities & how many other's are in gangs as well as the addicted that are a slave to a life of crime. The police are not the answer, we are, and it starts with respecting the badge and setting the example for doing the right thing and being accountable for when we mess up no matter who we are or the circumstance. It does suck to be on the receiving end of a Police action, especially if un-justified, but that is no excuse for you to run or ignore an officer when asked to show your ID, treat the badge with a high respect and usually it is returned in kind. If not, then a non-threatening act of self-respect usually will have a better outcome in my experience.
 
Always respect the Badge!... People are so naive like not knowing that police are just people working within a system. Not robots, but people
I agree, but it took me a long time to get there.

I hardly grew up on the wrong side of the tracks, but as a kid who liked skateboarding, BMXing, heavy-metal, & (later) motorcycles, I regularly received pretty appalling treatment from police. Stuff that could have ended a cop’s career if we had camera-phones & youtube back then.

It’s taken me 25 years since to begin understanding that most cops are in fact good people just doing a tough job for little pay.

My point is that mistrust of police often isn't just naivety, & that “respect” is something that's earned (or lost as the case may be).
 
I think there is two parts to that. One police are generally a reflection of people in power. You have good apples. You have bad apples. There are cops with a big heart and cops who abuse the power. They are a reflection of society. You try to weed the bad ones out but it is hard.

The trust thing is huge. Cops have to get over the us vs them mentality. Working the beat is about knowing the people you serve. Granted about 90 percent of my calls were for the same people and I knew every intimate detail about their lives, but it is about respect. I respected them. Even the dead beats. And they respected me. (Unless they were high or drunk, but that's a different story). Eventually they either died, served long time in jail or settled down and their kids are now delinquents.

Most people, you treat them with respect and I got it in return. I had probably one fight for every ten for my coworker who used toughness and intimidation to gain cooperation. Of course there are times you go get your game on but for 99% of people you reason with them and treat them with respect you get it back. Even if they are being arrested or going to jail. I didn't buffalo or trick people. You lay it out, let them know what they did wrong, what is going to happen, and treat them right. I wish they would install that in new officers at the academy. You lead a community with respect not intimidation. The badge is a privilege. There seriously needs a lesson in the academy about respect.
 
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