Odometer zeroed out help!

[XBBrad]

Ok i messed up. I left the key in the run position for about 4 hrs. This killed the bat, so i charged it up. The bike started and sounded ok, when i pulled it up to the garage to fuel it up the odometer was zeroed out and the service miles had reset. I thought odometer was a hard memory how could it have zeroed out and is there any way to get it back. A dead bat shouldn't zero out the odometer. Has anyone had this happen. Any help would be great thanks.
Its a 08 1125r

 

[ztied]

I think its normal, go fill it up, and start the trip ometer again.

 

[mrlogix]

I looked in the electrical manual for the 1125's and can't find anything on the odometer as far as where the mileage is stored. The trip odometers are stored in the IC, but the VIN (theft protection) is stored in the ECM and verified by the matching VIN in the IC via the CAN bus. Buell 1125 Electrical manual is available on the buellmods.com website. The IC info is chapter 4.

 

[ztied]

I reread ,and i was assuming the trip miles, and the gas miles zeroed out. If the actuall milage zeroed out then thats odd. Its usually stored on a chip in there and isn't supposed to be able to be changed, unless you have certain tools, thenyou can do t

 

[mrlogix]

being able to modify the total odometer, otherwise known as 'clocking the odometer' is illegal in all 50. Even the manufactures stay away from this. Technically though, the ECM or the IC itself is rewriting this register with the total miles. This would be on an internal flash memory area that it could constantly writing to but retentive without power. If something is writing to the register it can be hacked.

if it is the trip odometer and the service counter, then these are possible to write to a battery (internal) backed area of memory, but I am sure for space and simplicity it would be a different area of flash memory (chip) as these registers are user accessible.

 

[St1tch]

Now it sounds like you're talking about a Fanuc. Not a Buell. lol

 

[mrlogix]

LOL, same principle different application. Fundamentals are the same.

On a side note, got thrown on a robot project that corporate thought was a good idea. 4 years and $1.5M later they are stumped and dropped it in my lap Monday and said I've got 4 days to try to make it work.

 

[St1tch]

What system is it??? I wonder if it's one of our old ones. Someone bought our old HEX machines, 4 ABB and 3 Fanucs.

 

[mrlogix]

not a used system. All new, They had me design the cell for a concept of design. I had forgot all about it because I recommended going a different route on the process.They built it anyway at our Robotics division in Canada and brought it in the states to develop the application. Now they are back to me again.

Sorry, XBBrad, didn't mean to get it off topic.

 

[St1tch]

not a used system. All new, They had me design the cell for a concept of design. I had forgot all about it because I recommended going a different route on the process.They built it anyway at our Robotics division in Canada and brought it in the states to develop the application. Now they are back to me again.

Sorry, XBBrad, didn't mean to get it off topic.

Oh right on.

My apologies as well XBBrad. :0

 

[Cooter]

There's no way a dead battery zeroed the odometer. The trip meter, yes. I have no idea about the service interval, but it makes sense if it's using the tripmeter as a measure, not the odometer.

I do have the number of a guy who can put any mileage you want on a dash, if you are replacing one and need it to be the same. He explained it to me as the chip is 'count-up' only, so he just pulses it around zero and up to whatever you ask. I found him through e-bay and the logic is sound.

 

[djs2k2]

Sounds like you got a new Buell to me, enjoy the ride!

 

[heagachongoose]

The master odometer data is stored in two places, 1. The Cluster, and 2. The ECM. When one piece has an absent value the other will re-write to the other piece. This is why it is so easy and convenient to switch NEW 1125 gauge clusters. Once a new cluster is attached to the bike, it begins a countdown. Once the countdown is complete, the cluster is permanently tied to the vin# and odo reading. The only exception is when pairing a new ECM to an old cluster, then the ECM pairs off of the cluster memory.

So the only way you have a 0 master Odo reading is if both the ECM and cluster were somehow wiped. Meaning you would no longer have any stored map data in the ecm etc etc. Your bike would most likely not start and even if it were responsive, you would be running in a theft error and most likely wouldn't start because of that either.

So, taking that into consideration, I'd say you are experiencing a delicate misconnection somewhere either within the cluster or the master storage (ecm). I say as long as you plan to keep it, forget about it and run the piss out of it. Just pray it doesn't catch on fire one day.

 

[Cooter]

Disregard my post, my brain was on XB's:angel:

 

[XBBrad]

It is odometer not trip miles. That why i am concerned. Im not shure what the miles were before this happened. I run on trip 1 because i ride 100 miles a day and have to fill every day

 

[XBBrad]

Bike runs as good as it did before this happend

 

[XBBrad]

Thats ok cooter the name comes from my first buell

 

[heagachongoose]

Man if it functions fine I would not worry about it. You will have to go to the title dept to get the title mileage straightened out though. Otherwise it's technically an illegal and fraudulent odo reading.

Like I said the only time you would have to worry about that is if you were to sell it.

 

[XBBrad]

Went to HD to talk to a buell techhe said there's no way to access the milage with scanner. Service writer suggested i remove batt cable to see if it zeroed out again. When i connected cable odometer original milage came back. All fixed thanks everyone.