Primary Oil Discussion

[2003buellxb9s]

will do. ist that the only place water could/should be getting in from? the boot?

 

[Ralph2]

Good discussion here, following with interest. The boot on my XB9R clutch cable was very loose at the top and tight at the bottom, which meant any water just sat there seeping into the cable adjuster and hence down to the gearbox. Hopefully it's now cured with a few wraps of self-amalgamating tape round the top.

On a related note, I asked my HD Dealer for 'Oil for a Buell XB9R transmission/clutch' and he sold me Formula+ lubricant (Pt 99851-05). Now I see the handbook says use Sports-Trans Fluid (Pt 98854-06). Should I take it back and change it or doesn't it matter?

 

[Bordsnbikes]

Ralph2, either will be fine.

 

[Ralph2]

Thanks Bordsnbikes! Gotta get me that paddock stand and change the oil soonest.

 

[2003buellxb9s]

what i'm worried about is even though i have the boot sealed now that there is still water in the cable.. not sure why but relubing it just seems like a pain

 

[typeone]

buy a new one, they're better quality now anyway, even different than my '05 cable.

 

[Bordsnbikes]

The amount of water that could be sitting in that cable is nominal. I wouldn't worry about that.

 

[bad juju]

APPLICATIONS
AMSOIL Synthetic 20W-50 Motorcycle Oil is recommended for air or liquid cooled 4-stroke engines. It meets SAE 90, API GL-1 gear oil requirements and is recommended for transmissions and primary chaincases. AMSOIL MCV is recommended for Harley Davidson®, Buell®, Victory®, Ducati®, Aprilia®, BMW®, Triumph® and other motorcycles where 15W-50 or 20W-50 engine oils or SAE 90, GL-1 gear oils are used. Not recommended for shaft drive hypoid gears or where an API GL-4 or GL-5 gear oil is required.

 

[GatorBuell]

More Info. I kinda shy away from Amsoil, It destroyed the transmission in my Jeep after a rep told me it was the best thing for it.
I like the Mobil 1 stuff. Its also what S&S motors uses in their V's.


Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50 Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50
Formulated specifically for four-cycle V-twin engines. Key benefits of Mobil 1® V-Twin 20W-50:

* Outstanding resistance to thermal breakdown.
* Optimized for hot-running, air-cooled engines.
* Enhanced lubrication for peak horsepower.
* Protects engines against harmful dirt deposits.
* Excellent transmission performance.

Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50
Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50 is recommended for four-cycle motorcycles that specify the use of a 20W-50 engine oil. It provides excellent performance in motorcycle engines that are designed with a common engine/transmission lubrication system or where the engine lubrication system is separate from the transmission system. In the case of the latter, follow the manufacturer's recommendation for the type of fluid to be used in the transmission. Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50 engine oil is also designed to provide the proper frictional characteristics necessary for wet-clutch engine/transmission systems. Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50 exceeds the requirements of API Service Categories SH, SG/CF, CD and has been fully tested, both on laboratory dynamometers and in the field, to provide optimum horsepower and acceleration.

Fully synthetic Mobil 1 motorcycle oils are specifically engineered for use in motorcycles. The formulations are based on the proven technology used in other Mobil 1 automotive products, yet they are optimized for the unique requirements of a motorcycle engine and/or transmission. You can use them with confidence, knowing they will protect your bike in extreme situations where conventional motor oils simply can not stand up, including extended high-speed operation and prolonged idling in summertime traffic.

For more information, see the Mobil 1 Motorcycle Product Data Sheet and Material Safety Data Sheet.

 

[Bill2]

Gator Buell i also use mobil 1 V-twin in my new buell but don't you think your transmission going out in your jeep could have just been a defect,ect. or just one of those things? Its hard to go wrong with today's oils they came so far in the last 10+ years. I've put 100,000 miles between 3 bikes using 20/50 castrol oil GTX with no oil problems and there's better oil out there. Sometimes i think people make to big a deal with today's modern oils.

 

[GatorBuell]

It was not until a few months later that I found out why the Amsoil destroyed my tranny. It was the High pressure additives and phosphorus in the oil deteriorated the yellow metal (brass) syncro gears in a matter of 8 months. It is a GL5 hypoid gear compliant oil and not to be used in older Asiain AX-5/15 Jeep transmissions. The rep should have known that it was a GL5 and not backwards compatible to GL3 oils. When I asked the rep he said that oil was the best available for my year, make and model Tranny. Live and Learn, at least now I know how to rebuild a 5 speed transmission....

 

[Roccodart440]

Si is the amsoil ok? I've run it for about 3500 miles now and I like it.

 

[GatorBuell]

Yea you will not have a problem in the Buell. Im just a little pissed at the company is all and I like Mobil 1 stuff so thats the direction I go.

 

[Bill2]

Sorry to hear that gatorbuell, i'am pretty sure that GL5 hypoid gear oil 75-90wt. used in a buell or sportster will do the same deal in the primary. It eats away the yellow metal (copper)on the stator. I can see how that could happen with amsoil's anybody can be a instance distributor/dealer plan.

 

[xtremelow]

gotta love Mobile1, I run it in my bike, show truck, and daily driver.

Brandon

 

[Buell_Cru]

I run Amsoil 20-50 in my bike. In the Spring, Summer and Fall I change the engine oil every 2500 miles and the tranny every 5000 miles. In the winter I do the engine every 1000 to 1500 and the tranny still at 5000.

I have not had any problems yet. Hope all keeps going well.

 

[SeabeeBueller]

So.... is there a big difference between the HD syn3 and RP? if so, since I just went to the syn3, does it matter if I immediately change to the rp or amsoil?

 

[Offtrack1]

I run RP 20w-50 in both holes and no problem 9000 miles. 06 XB12Scg

 

[RT Performance]

Royal Purple is avible through napa and auto zone but only seen 15-40 at autzone.
Most manufacture have switched to synthtic in there automatic transmissions and i have 5-40 rotella synthtic in both hole right now and adjusted the clutch while i had the cover off and it is the best my bike has ever ran i will be switching it to RP or amsoil once the temp begins to go up here to 20-50

 

[RT Performance]

Not sure why you state not to run engine oil or synthetic in the primary since royal purple is a synthtic motor oil??
yes royal purple good stuff been in my truck for years and has specail additives but i so dont get that statement[confused]