Stock right scoop?

[RidetheLightning]

I have a 2007 XB12SCG and am looking at parts to help cooling since I live in Phoenix. I saw the large right side scoop, but was wondering if my bike has some sort of smaller scoop already? I’ve seen other pictures where Lightning’s don’t appear to have this piece.

 

[Silverrider]

I suggest this one, especially in Phoenix. It is one of the first things I do to my buells.

 

[RidetheLightning]

I suggest this one, especially in Phoenix. It is one of the first things I do to my buells.


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Nice bike. Do you know if the shroud helps much? the scoop and shroud combo is $130, which seems steep to add that much for a plastic piece over part of the exhaust. I'm more worried about engine temp than my leg, but if it helps keep everything cool it might be worth it.

 

[Cooter]

The Uly 'comfort kit' includes the RSS and heat shielding for the exhaust. You can just get the scoop if your right inner thigh is ok.
Comfort kit $139:
https://sphdonline.com/products/m19...-rider-comfort-kit-2006-2010-xb12x-xb12xt-u7a

RSS and shield for XB $125:
https://sphdonline.com/products/buell-right-scoop-heat-shield-kit-all-xb-models-l19c

Just the RSS $69: (and worth every dang penny)
https://sphdonline.com/products/m08...buell-right-scoop-kit-fits-all-xb-models-l19c

Theres lots of carbon fiber or fiberglass aftermarket options and such as well on flEa-bay.

 

[Silverrider]

I sure love my 09 , I quess you can tell , LOL

 

[yellowcarbon]

I'm in Phoenix and did just the larger RSS only. It made a noticeable change to the heat. It's not a night and day difference, but it is noticeable cooler and worth the expense. I have not added a heat shield, so I can't speak on that. Although I always think about doing it and get side tracked before I order one.

But it is still a hot bike to ride in the AZ summer. I have the factory race exhaust and it blows hot air right on to my foot when stopped at a light. In my perforated leather boots, I can feel it. So I just move my boot forward.

 

[34nineteen]

Nice bike. Do you know if the shroud helps much? the scoop and shroud combo is $130, which seems steep to add that much for a plastic piece over part of the exhaust. I'm more worried about engine temp than my leg, but if it helps keep everything cool it might be worth it.

Its actually a metal shroud over the pipe itself, held on by hose clamps (in pure Harley style). I put one on my last bike, and it was so-so. In Phoenix, during the summer its so hot, all that shroud is going to do is prevent your leg from accidentally touching the pipe (which would be a rare/unique case). You're still going to be hot, regardless.

The RSS scoop is a definite must have. You'll notice a difference in cooling the engine and fan activity when you shut down the motor. There is a stock "scoop", but its more like a flat shroud. You need to remove it to install the RSS. The trash is where it belongs.

Chandler HD has sold me 3-4 RSS scoops over the years, but I just get the screws from Ace. Do yourself a favor and bring them in the part #'s.

 

[RidetheLightning]

I saw the hose clamps and thought it was a lot more to pay than the $69 just for the scoop. I'm more worried about engine heat than my leg, as it's going to be hot either way. Does the Uly kit fit a lightning? The SPHD site specifically calls out the models it's compatible with. Also, I saw some people adding makeshift head shields under the seat, but was wondering if this would actually trap heat around the engine.

 

[34nineteen]

I saw the hose clamps and thought it was a lot more to pay than the $69 just for the scoop. I'm more worried about engine heat than my leg, as it's going to be hot either way. Does the Uly kit fit a lightning? The SPHD site specifically calls out the models it's compatible with. Also, I saw some people adding makeshift head shields under the seat, but was wondering if this would actually trap heat around the engine.

If I was going to do it again, I'd just do the RH scoop. The exhaust shield was nice to have, but it was hard to justify for the price (but then again, everything motorcycle is hard to justify for the price). I've never tried the underseat kit, but I've never felt the seat got too hot on a properly running XB. An 1125 is a different beast, and those f*ckers can get hot enough to boil gas in the tank. The only time I had an XB do that was when the rear head temp sensor went out.

Also, Cooter swears by a little bit of 2 stroke oil in the gas to help cooling. I read the trials and tribulations (and heckling) of Gloomshadow when he tried it on his. He likes it too.
I tried it, and didnt notice a difference, but the Cooter thinks I had too much sauce in the gas.

 

[RidetheLightning]

If I was going to do it again, I'd just do the RH scoop. The exhaust shield was nice to have, but it was hard to justify for the price (but then again, everything motorcycle is hard to justify for the price). I've never tried the underseat kit, but I've never felt the seat got too hot on a properly running XB. An 1125 is a different beast, and those f*ckers can get hot enough to boil gas in the tank. The only time I had an XB do that was when the rear head temp sensor went out.

Also, Cooter swears by a little bit of 2 stroke oil in the gas to help cooling. I read the trials and tribulations (and heckling) of Gloomshadow when he tried it on his. He likes it too.
I tried it, and didnt notice a difference, but the Cooter thinks I had too much sauce in the gas.

Thanks, I just got a cable to check the engine code. I hope it's just what the seller said is the exhaust valve, but it felt really hot, including the frame tank, for just a 30 min ride to work. I've still gotta check all the grounds, double check the fan is working properly, and change the oil. I feel like my roadstar 1600 should have gotten me used to the heat of an air cooled engine in Arizona, but that had a big fat seat.

 

[34nineteen]

Thanks, I just got a cable to check the engine code. I hope it's just what the seller said is the exhaust valve, but it felt really hot, including the frame tank, for just a 30 min ride to work. I've still gotta check all the grounds, double check the fan is working properly, and change the oil. I feel like my roadstar 1600 should have gotten me used to the heat of an air cooled engine in Arizona, but that had a big fat seat.

When you shut down the bike after bringing to operating temp, the fan will run for awhile. That was one of my clues that something was wrong with my bike. You can use ECM Droid to manually turn on the fan. You can also disable to the exhaust valve with ECM Droid as well. I think its called the IAV. Double checking and cleaning the grounds on these bikes is never a bad thing. You may want to run an auxilliary ground wire from the battery to the coil. Some people swear by it, I think I noticed a minor difference when I did it on my last one.

 

[Cooter]

Yes to all of that. 34:19 has you well covered:eagerness:

Air cooled engines are designed for a MUCH broader operating temperature range. Most of your concern is unneeded, It hasn't even been that hot in PHX (yet:upset If you are still concerned, you can use ECMDroid with a bluetooth dongle ($40-ish from Buelltooth.com) and wirelessly transmit "live data" (like gauges) to your Android phone on a handlebar mount. That includes temp from the head and a vast amount of other parameters.

Otherwise, just ride it. She will tell you when she's too hot by first pulling timing (weak on power), lowering redline, even killing one cylinder, and then shutting down.
315* (IIRC stock) is where the ECM starts to pull timing because of the heat and not even in one cylinder 'parade mode' yet. Try THAT with your Kia!

 

[RidetheLightning]

Yes to all of that. 34:19 has you well covered:eagerness:

Air cooled engines are designed for a MUCH broader operating temperature range. Most of your concern is unneeded, It hasn't even been that hot in PHX (yet:upset If you are still concerned, you can use ECMDroid with a bluetooth dongle ($40-ish from Buelltooth.com) and wirelessly transmit "live data" (like gauges) to your Android phone on a handlebar mount. That includes temp from the head and a vast amount of other parameters.

Otherwise, just ride it. She will tell you when she's too hot by first pulling timing (weak on power), lowering redline, even killing one cylinder, and then shutting down.
315* (IIRC stock) is where the ECM starts to pull timing because of the heat and not even in one cylinder 'parade mode' yet. Try THAT with your Kia!

Thanks ordered the buelltooth and gonna ride some more. Good to know it has some failsafe. This is my first fuel injected bike and highest performance e so it's kinda hard to know what baseline should feel like.

 

[Chicknstripn]

Not sure if it been mentioned yet but go to www.buellmods.com and download a service manual.
The service manual will help you out tremendously when you’re trying to wrench around the bike.

 

[rb70383]

I try to not refer back to watercooled parameters. I lived in Mesa, and didn't have a RSS. Was toasty. Almost thought the fan was broke one ride when it didn't come on. It did when I shut it off.
I'm still not used to air cooled engines. So they always seem too hot for me. But just a new language I gotta learn.

Nice ride to Tortilla Flat. East past AJ