Will a Jardine slip-on be more trouble than it's worth?

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I know this has been discussed on the board many times but I haven't seen much recent discussion about it. I've had my 2004 XB12S for about a month and it came with a modified "custom" Harley straight pipe (piece of junk) that was not supported in any way and of course it cracked at the bend on the poor welding job.

The pipe was garbage but it sounded awesome. Very loud and deep. The Jardine RT ONE is really all that is in my price range. I know hawk is an option as well but I can't seem to find a half decent condition stock pipe for a reasonable price.

So, the guy I bought the bike from says it has a Jardine map. Not sure if this is true or not, or if it matters. If I buy the slip-on, is it inevitable that my bike will require tuning, power commander, etc? Any help would be much appreciated. I'm a newbie and I'm slowly learning...

 

[spazz8448]

im running a carbonfiber jardine GP-1 exhaust i have NOT mapped any anything and it still runs just fine.


this is on a my firebolt xb12r.

 

[vve are the end]

Thanks! I'm sure others will have other input but its good to see the response I was hoping for. haha

 

[spazz8448]

yea i did the airbox re route and airbox delete as well still didnt redo the maps but it usually is "recommended" but all bikes behave differently

 

[redrider]

If you run a K&N filter and a open exhaust or any other type of performance exhaust and dont retune ecm or run a race ecm you WILL lean out your motor making it run very hot and in the long term ruin it.

 

[Christer]

Agree with redrider. [up]

 

[CoastieRider]

Go with Hawk exhaust, the cheap pop rivets that hold the Jardines together fail after a few thousand miles, and the 90 degree pipe that connects the header to the glasspack has a tendency to vibrate apart. when the rivets were loose, I replaced the with Aviation grade Cherrymax's, these damn things are strong since they hold the damn airframe together, the holes were a lil wallered out so i drilled it out to one size larger, It seemed bulletproof when it was back together, but of course it lasted only few hundred miles..
.. I think the Jardines were never really engineered to handle the vibration of the harley engine, all they did was take a jap exhaust and modidfy it to fit on a buell..

I would highly recommend Hawk exhaust because it doesn't need to be repacked every so often, nice throaty and deep tone, my jardine always sound like a tin can. If you don't have a core exhaust to send to Hawk, just look on Ebay, i see them all the time, sometimes already modified by Hawk, and i think it's cheaper than the Jardine...

 

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On that note, if anybody happens to have a stock exhaust they are willing to sell, please get in touch..

 

[Kid1620]

My brother in law had his jardine on his bike for about 8-9 thousand miles before it split into 3 different pieces and the only reason it did that is because he never once repacked it and it was an older model. They changed the design of the end caps a few years ago to help prevent then from breaking but if you don't repack it with good quality packing then it's going to break.

 

[sewerman]

I have 6000 miles on my Jardine. Since I read so many times that the packing in the RT-1's sucks I took mine apart with about 1000 miles on it. Everyone was right the packing sucked. I drilled all of the rivets out, both ends. The end cap at the tip would not come out even with the rivets removed so I just put new rivets in. I packed it with the blanket type material that FMF sells. Excellant stuff and one package fills the Jardine. With the RT-1 off I inspected everything and all parts were fine. I did install a reducer at the can's intake(as found on this forum)and then buffed her out to make her pretty again. While apart I slipped a small section of transmission hose over the right side retention spring. The spring tends to rub on the 90 degree elbow bracket. Also, when I bought my RT-1 new I removed the Jardine stickers with a hair dryer and Goop. With my polished headers and polished Jardine my 12R looks great. I also installed the EBR ecm with a K&N. Bottom line, I like my Jardine.