2008 xb12r w/ drummer

[taylor]

ok now im confused. i have a 08 xb12r. i just added the drummer to it for a little noise. now i hear everyone saying that the drummer will slow down my bike? it this true? i dont know because i put it on today and the rain is still falling. any feed back? is the pipe slowing me down? and if so what is the pipe adding to the bike besides noise? last thing is this hurting my bike with just the pipe?
thanks guys

 

[steve may]

You need to remap the ECM.

 

[strmvt]

just reset the tps according to your users manual and ride the bike you'll be just fine

 

[Stevenc150]

You've got an '08, do a "Learn-in" ride and that version of the ECM will compensate for it since it's the pipe only.

 

[squiers007]

From what I am told, with the Drummer it isnt required that you remap your ECM, but it is however recommended for the life and performance of the engine. On the subject of aftermarket exhaust slowing someones bike down, I dont believe this to be true, certain exhaust may cause you to lose a little bottom end torque, but what you lose in bottom end you make up for in top end. With a proper remap, and an open airbox, adding an exhaust to your bike will not only make it sound better, but should give you added performance gains.

 

[oxygen151]

I just put a drummer on my bike and I love it. Perfect sound, great performance. It will not slow you down, it has a very nice power curve to it, even with a stock ECM.

 

[taylor]

thx guys, you all gave good info. this site is such a huge help.

 

[jsg]

Yep like it's been said the 08+ bikes don't need the remap nor the tps reset. I think xopti finally got the new DDFI3 figured out and we can get some maps from him but it's not required and not get it wont hurt your motor in anyway or form.

 

[GibbyGutiar]

So what happends if I just buy a Jardine slip on just for the sound. Im not planning on doing anything to the air box. Will I still be cool with the stock ECM?

 

[Stevenc150]

So what happends if I just buy a Jardine slip on just for the sound. Im not planning on doing anything to the air box. Will I still be cool with the stock ECM?

If your bike is '07-earlier, you'll probably need a TPS Reset via the dealer(expensive) or ECMSpy(cheap).

If your bike is '08-later, do a "Learn-in" ride and you should be golden.

 

[dave_xb12r]

The drummer was designed to be a "plug and play" exhaust with nothing besides a tps reset needed. So I would assume that it wouldn't hurt performance

 

[taylor]

what does a "learn in require"?

 

[taylor]

by the way im loving my drummer. amazing sound, and it seems to run just fine. but i still want to know how to "learn in" or what ever.
thx

 

[Tork]

No TPS reset required for exhaust mods.

 

[jsg]

So what happends if I just buy a Jardine slip on just for the sound. Im not planning on doing anything to the air box. Will I still be cool with the stock ECM?

DID YOU READ THE POST JUST ABOVE YOURS BEFORE ASKING? I just said it one post before your question and many people have said it too. IF 08+ NO NEED FOR ANYTHING, IF 07- TPS IS REQUIRED.

Sorry for screaming but it seem we need too sometimes.

 

[Tork]

jsg- Even Buells prior to '07 do not need a TPS reset for an exhaust mod. The TPS has absolutely nothing to do with the exhaust. Same for airbox mods- No TPS reset necessary.

 

[Stevenc150]

what does a "learn in require"?

It's as simple as taking a nice long highway ride, with little to know accel or decel, for a 20+ mins, keeping RPM's around 3200. It's actually a natural range to ride in. This is where the ECM is in closed loop mode and will monitor & adjust fuel as needed to compensate for the added exhaust.

 

[jsg]

jsg- Even Buells prior to '07 do not need a TPS reset for an exhaust mod. The TPS has absolutely nothing to do with the exhaust. Same for airbox mods- No TPS reset necessary.

K well I can talk more for the 08+ since I own a 09 but my point is it gets a bit irritation when you answer a question and right after your answer there is the same f@#$g question being ask again, I mean if you want help at least take time to read the post.

 

[Stevenc150]

Even Buells prior to '07 do not need a TPS reset for an exhaust mod. The TPS has absolutely nothing to do with the exhaust. Same for airbox mods- No TPS reset necessary.

Like Tork said, if you do the exhaust OR intake mod and it runs great, cool. But if you do a mod and it runs like crap, a TPS reset will almost certainly fix it. Regional differences seem to dictate whether a reset is needed or not. Seen some that have needed them, and some that haven't.