Carrying a gun while riding..
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Several manufactures make a concealed carry t-shirt (compression type) that allows a light loose over-shirt that puts the firearm in a shoulder holster position. I carry a 1911 Gov model full time except at work (DOD contractor, no firearms allowed, lol) usually in an outside the waist band custom holster by Stoner Holster. plan on using the concealed carry t-shirt with riding jacket. I am also a part time CQB pistol Instructor for a range here in SW Ohio. All my pistols are full size .45's or 9's.
That is a giant, heavy, weapon to carry everyday!!!!
ASH
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I always carry. I cary an XD 9 service pistol and use a crossbreed holster. Very comfortable in all situations, very unnoticeable, always available, always hot... a gun not in the ready state could cost you valuable time, or your life...
I never have to worry about going anywhere that wouldn't alloy me to carry and I always conceal carry when in civi clothes. I am very much against open carry, not because some of your states allow it, but because you become the first target , highest threat, in a real life bad situation.
Just my .02
I never have to worry about going anywhere that wouldn't alloy me to carry and I always conceal carry when in civi clothes. I am very much against open carry, not because some of your states allow it, but because you become the first target , highest threat, in a real life bad situation.
Just my .02
I guess I'm used to it from teaching and carrying all these years. I carry the 1911 or Sig P226 or Jericho 941 and sometimes a Browning Hi Power as a backup. I have used the compression shirt before, just not on a bike and it works very well. The problem is I usually carry 2-3 xtra mags and they can be a little trickier to conceal and still get to quickly. I had a 1911 sidearm in the Corps and it feels right. Old habits are hard to break for Jarheads. LOL.
theMelvster6
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Carry a Sig P238 .380 and I carry it in a little IWB holster on my front. Easy to conceal, comfortable to ride with...I carry condition 1, but guns don't go off unless you pull the trigger and I check mechanical function all the time so I'm not terribly concerned about it next to my junk...lol
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Modern firearms are pretty damn safe as far as they will ONLY fire if one pulls the trigger. It's extremely unlikely a firearm will discharge due to being dropped, stared at angrily, etc. I heard on the news a few months back something like "the man dropped the gun and when it hit the floor it fired and killed his wife". No, he was just sick and tired of his wife's bitching...
A trigger guard is essential to carrying safely on your body(or off your body). Personally I don't like carrying off your body, say a back pack, in the glove box, whatever. I feel more secure with it on me. You're going to have to put up a good fight to get it from me, rather than bust a window in my truck and take it with no struggle, etc.
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I agree with you cooter that anything can fail, but I have never seen or heard of a real case where a firearm discharged without the trigger being pulled. I'm sure there are stories out there but I bet those are mainly just stories.
I could definitely see a gun say in a womans purse or in your center console loose, with no trigger guard, and a pencil or chap stick gets caught between the trigger and makes the gun fire. That's why a holster with a trigger guard is so important.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's ok to point firearms at things you don't intend to shoot, that's just stupid and ignorant. I'm just saying that 99.99999999% of the time a firearm will not shoot if the trigger is not pulled. They are pretty damn simple designs that rarely fail.
I could definitely see a gun say in a womans purse or in your center console loose, with no trigger guard, and a pencil or chap stick gets caught between the trigger and makes the gun fire. That's why a holster with a trigger guard is so important.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's ok to point firearms at things you don't intend to shoot, that's just stupid and ignorant. I'm just saying that 99.99999999% of the time a firearm will not shoot if the trigger is not pulled. They are pretty damn simple designs that rarely fail.
Gun safety #1 never point a gun at anything you do not want to shoot.
Gun safety #2 keep your finger off the trigger until you have sight picture and sight alignment on your target
Yes safeties are mechanical devices that can fail. That's why you should inspect and test your guns on a regular basis. Most accidental discharges are from negligence and complacency. Un-holstered carry is just stupid. The holster is the weapon presentation device that keeps the weapon safe (trigger covered) until it is needed and a key indicator to law enforcement of possible criminal intent is un holstered carry. If the bad guy tries to throw away a pistol he has to try to get the holster off his belt too.
just my 2 cents
Gun safety #2 keep your finger off the trigger until you have sight picture and sight alignment on your target
Yes safeties are mechanical devices that can fail. That's why you should inspect and test your guns on a regular basis. Most accidental discharges are from negligence and complacency. Un-holstered carry is just stupid. The holster is the weapon presentation device that keeps the weapon safe (trigger covered) until it is needed and a key indicator to law enforcement of possible criminal intent is un holstered carry. If the bad guy tries to throw away a pistol he has to try to get the holster off his belt too.
just my 2 cents
chief_of_smoke
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i have seen and read reports of firearms going off with out pull the trigger. one was due to stupidity, a .50bmg stuck in a barel of a m2 due to an i.e.d. and trying to unjam with a hammer. the other was due to heat and an act off god, m16a2 going off while still on safe and finger nowhere near trigger. both of corse happened in iraq. shotgun dropped just right, depending on model, can fire. i.e. firing pin gets jared just rifht. so i agree the .01% **** does happen. but when maintained and care is used, you shouldnt have an issue while properly carrieing/ handeling a firearm.
I am an active member on the Glock forum and I consider them one of the safest handguns built today. There have been 2 instances of misfiring without the trigger being pulled on that forum. A LEO and a ex-mil "firearms trainer". Sure there could be a million reasons why, but I really, really love my balls. I'll keep my gun in a holster
I carry my lc9 in a clipless IWB holster from Remora on my hip. Not real bad once u get use to it and get it in the right position. As far as it going off, I am not too concerned. When u pull the trigger, the hammer has to travel back before it goes forward and strikes the bullet. Seems pretty safe to me.
No matter what it is you carry,( caliber size etc) familiarity with your weapon and how you carry it all comes down to muscle memory. As a veteran, patriot, and rider, I am always carrying. The main thing you need to focus on is training your muscle memory to be able to access and present your firearm quickly. In a life or death situation the seat cowl is not the easiest access point. I personally always wear a light icon jacket and it does a good job of concealing my sigp220 in my shoulder rig. When I am riding I attach the elastic straps from my holster to my belt. If I am ever without the sin then my 3 inch kimberrides in an IWB holster at the three o'clock position.
