Couple of Issues XB12R

[shine69]

Hi guys I'm new here and just took the plunge on a xb12r. Its a 2004 model I love it to its but theres acouple of issues I'd like to resolve if poss. Firstly the neutral light seems to be on even when i pull the clutch in when in gear its off but obviously it makes finding neutral a little harder, is this normal? The other is the kick stand sensor or lack of it, is it standard in this year to have one? I'm terrible at forgetting to lift it up so am wondering about this..

Thanks in advance,
Scott

 

[xtremelow]

All models had the stand sensor, I am guessing the prior owner may have messed with the wires or removed it due to a problem. You could purchase a new one or it may still be on the bike and he just connected the wires so he could have the stand down for stunts or something.

All it is, is a small cylindrical sensor mounted at the picot point of the stand if it is there you can trace the wires to the right side of the bike under the belly pan to see if they were messed with.

As far as the nuetral light that doesnt sound normal you may have a bad sensor, not to sure there.

 

[shine69]

Anyone got a photo of the stand sensor as i can't seem to see it?

i have read somewhere the neutral light is to do with the diode in the fuse box, someone has put a fuse in the diode slot so will try to source a diode.

cheers

 

[dave_xb12r]

95% of all of our stand sensors have failed.

The neutral light sensor failure is pretty normal for the older XB bikes as well.

 

[shine69]

thanks mate, do you have a pic of the stand sensor position, i also have another query, will try to post some photos at some stage but theres a cable inside the airbox cover that just sits in the middle with a plug on the end of it not plugged into anything, is this the cable for the ecmspy cable to plug into as i read somewhere its meant to be under the front fairing somewhere?

Cheers

 

[Lordfenwick]

Guys,

XB's don't have stand switches unless 08 model or later. Dave - check out page B25 at the back of the manual - only clutch and nuetral switches in the starting circuit.

Shine: Sounds like that is the cable to the exhaust valve actuator - do you have a box sat on top of the airbox with a semicircular pulley on it with a cable running down to the exhaust? If not then i guess you have an aftermarket exhaust fitted with the race ecu and the actuator has been removed because it is not now needed.

Can you also explain your neutral issue a bit more. The neutral light stays on whether the clutch is in or out when the bike is in neutral. It only goes off when a gear is engaged. Does yours act differently?

 

[flaya564]

Shine69

Check your fuses for the nuetral switch. I had the same issue, bought the sensor ($5) replaced it, same problem. Looked at the fuses, I think it was the ACC fuse. That my solve that one for you.

 

[shine69]

Thanks guys, yeah I'm pretty sure theres meant to be a diode in the fuse box but someone has put a fuse in the slot, I've read this is the likely prob but need to get a diode from the HD dealer. The cable sitting in the airbox is very likely what used to drive the servo as the exhaust has been modified, so will sort that out when I get an ecmspy cable. Hopefully that will sort out the issues.

Cheers guys

 

[Phazernut]

Are you saying 08 and up have the stand switch...if so my 09 doesn't have one.

 

[03fire9r]

Lordfenwick you are WRONG...

my 03 XB9R has a stand switch as all do. it is not part of the starting circut. put your stand down, kick it in to gear, let the clutch out with the stand down.... hmmm bike shuts off

 

[plasticgunz]

My '04 XB12R does not have a kickstand switch and the manual confirms this, FWIW.

 

[onelogue]

My '04 XB12R, as well DOES NOT have the kick stand sensor. In fact I forgot to put it up the other day lol.... :/

 

[Lordfenwick]

Buell 2008 Technical Bulletin announces a new side stand swith with the comments:

"NEW HDI Side Stand Switch
• All XB models have tab for switch – Only
HDI versions have the switch
• Switch installed on HDI Buells with
enabled DDFI3 ECM
• The side stand switch is designed
to prevent forward motion of the
motorcycle while running and in gear
with the side stand leg in the extended
position"

HDI stands for Harley Davidson International apparently.

Phazernut, I guess HD don't consider Canada to be international......?

However, Iron machine list the following:

OEM BUELL XB SERIES SIDE STAND SAFETY SWITCH
# Y0800.02A8
FITS O3-04 XB SERIES
MADE IN THE U.S.A.
FREE SHIPPING
IN STOCK

So I guess that they must have been fitted at some time. My 05 has never had one and I am in the UK so have the HDI model (presumably)!

Shine69. The following link is to the bulletin which has a picture of the switch in situ:

2008 Tech Bulletin

 

[Reds]

First time user on this forum but like what I have read so far.....good work lads.

I have a 2003 XB9S (with a side stand sensor) and after reading through the vast array of knowledge on this forum and poking about myself, I have came to the conclusion I need to replace my neutral sensor. I am now having trouble finding one, a replacement one I mean.

Can anyone recommend a good supplier of this and other Buell parts. I am an Englishman but living in Virginia so a US vendor would be best.

Cheers and keep the rubber side down

 

[black_xb12r]

im not sure about the side stand issue... i think certain years had them and some diddnt... my buddy in town here withan 03 XB9S has a kickstand switch but my 04XB12R never came with one... i know mine diddnt cause i bought it new and went to disable it and it wasnt there lol

 

[kalifornia]

08 12r domestic does not have any switch

 

[lightning512]

2005 XB12S does not have a stand sensor i checked earlier today, the bike will still start and go into first gear with the kickstand down. Kinda scary!