GREAT Suspension Tuning Resource

[kz6fittycent]

I happened upon Dave Moss Tuning on Youtube yesterday and I'm hooked. Started using some of his techniques yesterday evening and what a difference it's made in my XB9SX! The ride is SO much better thanks to this guy's info.

Check him out if you haven't already: https://www.youtube.com/user/CatalystReactionSBW

 

[34nineteen]

I like his videos as well. I'm glad he stresses setting up sag in a few videos, as most people dont do it correctly... or do it at all.

He is quick to recommend a spring swap to a heavier rate on most bikes, but thats understandable as most (Japanese) bikes do come undersprung for an "American sized" rider. IMO, Buell got it right, and the springs are pretty much spot on for most American sized riders.

 

[njloco]

It's funny that this comes up now as I also started watching his YT info. Though I did set up my Buells I checked them yesterday and realized I never did do the preload because I can't find my spanner wrench, and guess what, I still can't find it !

 

[34nineteen]

It's funny that this comes up now as I also started watching his YT info. Though I did set up my Buells I checked them yesterday and realized I never did do the preload because I can't find my spanner wrench, and guess what, I still can't find it !

On my last XB, I searched all over for my hook wrench and wound up doing something makeshift. When I was putting the makeshift stuff away, I found the hook wrench hiding in plain sight!

 

[kz6fittycent]

Yeah mine's missing, too. I got a rag and use channel locks (I'll hide in a corner now). Got it tho!

 

[Cooter]

All of you should have one in your OE toolkit? I think they really got it right with the EBR one. Who ever uses that string as a helmet lock anyway Haha

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Erik-Buell...960793&hash=item2f15c79147:g:qS0AAOSw~IBahJO5

 

[outthere]

Dave does my bike. Tire wear greatly improved.

 

[kz6fittycent]

All of you should have one in your OE toolkit? I think they really got it right with the EBR one. Who ever uses that string as a helmet lock anyway Haha

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Erik-Buell...960793&hash=item2f15c79147:g:qS0AAOSw~IBahJO5

Mine is used, no kit...and I recently moved into a new house. It's in a box somewhere labeled "Garage # ?". I'll get to it sometime. Good thing is that I got the rear preload dialed in on the first try.

 

[kz6fittycent]

Dave does my bike. Tire wear greatly improved.

He seems like a super nice guy on video. I assume he's the same in person. What's the difference like for you after he tunes it?

 

[outthere]

Night and day on the track which is where my bike lives. No kick back on sharp edged bumps, no fish tale under hard braking. Folks who have it wrong get real bad tire wear. Before Dave I had my damper on 15. Now it's set @ 5. Suspension done right makes going fast easy.

 

[Cooter]

I am so impressed with that guy. How can he do that without even riding the bike himself? Tons of experience and knowledge, thats how:up:

 

[outthere]

Like a witcher that finds water in an area where there's none.

 

[njloco]

Found it ! It was in the, of all place's to be, tool kit, hey don't laugh you'll get old too.
It's on the lowest notch and still there is no lift from from the static position ? So according to the owners manual for the SS, I'm supposed to be in the second line for suspension settings for the rear shock, I've now adjusted the settings as though I weigh less, as in the first line, I've never lost weight so fast and easily before. It's a completely stock bike and nothing has been changed, I might need a different rear spring.

 

[outthere]

Sag should use 1/4 of max wheel movement.

 

[Cooter]

It's like finding the glasses you were looking for, on your head (guilty)

Is it locked out at max extension with you sitting (in full gear) on the bike?

 

[njloco]

No, not with me sitting on the bike, I'm talking static so when I get off the bike, there is no lift movement when putting upwards pressure at the rear of the seat ? I'm pretty sure there should be according to Dave's YT vids.

Let me add, the bike does handle very well for my abilities in the twisties but it's a bit hard on my lower back but nothing I can't live with and according to the Buell owners manual if one wants good handling in the twisties it should be set harsh.

 

[kz6fittycent]

No, not with me sitting on the bike, I'm talking static so when I get off the bike, there is no lift movement when putting upwards pressure at the rear of the seat ? I'm pretty sure there should be according to Dave's YT vids.

Yeah from what I'm seeing, it should be somewhere around an inch (at least). It might be more depending on your body weight, too. So if you're lighter, you'd need slightly more sag than someone heavier.

 

[njloco]

Exactly ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ what I was thinking. Yet as stated above, the bike is completely stock and as far as I know the rear spring was not changed, it's black in color.

 

[Cooter]

NJ, your saying your sag set correctly for your weight with you on it now, and after you get off you want it to still have more up-travel?
Hard to say, as that setting is only important with you on it and means nothing empty and static. I wouldn't worry about it. Ride on bro:eagerness:

 

[njloco]

Sounds good, I'm going to go out tomorrow and spank her a little and see how she rides.