HELP! Won't turn over?

[LeFox]

you could always get a can of WD 40 after any plugs or ignition wires since it happened in the rain. that should take any water out of the equation.

even better is 'dielectric electric contact grease'

 

[YumaBuell]

This is a list of the things I have done in an attempt to diagnose this issue:
1) Checked all fuses, the ignition fuse is the only one that is blowing
2) Dis-connected fuel pump and side stand harness, then installed ignition fuse and it blew
3) Took off front fairing and inspected all wire harnesses for signs of water and/or wear and found that neither were present.
4) Dis-assembled the kill/starter switch assembly, no signs of water or bare wires.
5) Pulled out all relays, put in new ignition fuse, turned key on and put relays in one at a time (all 6 combinations possible). When the ignition relay is NOT in the fuse is ok and the starter will turn over.
6) Disconnected battery waited for 5 minutes, re-connected and fuse still blew.

My next step was going to be troubleshooting the coil as Buellysses suggested, but last night when I started working on the bike I got a phonecall from a girl who wanted to come over, so I had to TCB. Tonight I plan on troubleshooting the coil, it sounds like the culprit since that grey wire (pin 4) from the switch leads to the coil. The other wire colors are the same on the firebolt and I do recall seeing a grey wire in the kill/starter cluster when I dis-assembled it. If that doens't work I will have to bust out the multi-meter and electric test light. I appreciate all the suggestions because I need it! (TCB= Take care of Business!)

 

[zoedogg1]

Voltage regulator also..? I was reading through the manual to help with an answer, but Im beginning to run out of ideas myself.[sad][confused] If it is either the coil or voltage regulator I'd be pretty surprised. I've never heard of the coil blowing fuses like that, only under powering, and the regulator is unlikely since the bike has to be running for that to put out to much I would think.
Im stumped man....By the way...GET SOME!!! Yeah!![up]

 

[Bordsnbikes]

Don't use a test light on computer controlled vehicles. They can draw to much power to run the light bulb and fry your ECM. Stick with the multimeter/voltmeter, they don't hurt things and you get accurate readings rather then how bright/dim your light is.

 

[YumaBuell]

Thanks again for the input guys. I really hope I figure something out tonight or tomorrow. I want to drive up to phoenix to visit some friends and maybe go say hi to buellparts guy and show off my exhaust. Yeah by the way the latina girls here in Yuma are WILD!

 

[LeFox]

are you getting an the signal if a trouble code is stored or an unidentified error?

 

[Sanji]

i was reading through what you did Yuma and was wondering if you Ohmed the wires out to ground/other wires for the inginition circuit if that is where your problem is. This would defently eliminate any problem being in the wires. You would need an ohm reader and a service manual and possibly that girl to lend a helping hand lol. Good luck man!

 

[YumaBuell]

Lefox, i dont have a code reader, but when I turn the key in the "on" position the only lights that are on are the neutral light and the oil light (no check engine light). This is of course with a blown fuse....When I put a new fuse in, if i'm not mistaken, i beleive the check engine light turns but almost instantaneously turns off when the fuse blows.

 

[zoedogg1]

Yeah, its gotta be hot as hell there right now, one of my older brothers lives there. He just retired from the Marine Corp. and was stationed on the base there in Yuma. He always complains about the heat...
Keep us clued in on what comes up with the bike. I've really got to know now..

 

[YumaBuell]

Hell yeah its hot as heck out here! I just moved here from Michigan 4 months ago and from what I have been told this has been an extremely mild summer averaging between 105-110 degrees since mid June. I guess usually once you hit May its at least 100 everyday and July-August 110 or 115+ is a normal thing.

Ok guys, I figured it out last night FINALLY! I started working on the bike right after I got home from the gym and I was hungry as hell but I was also determined as hell. I was working on the bike for about 90 minutes or so until I was ready to pack things up and make some dinner (it was getting dark and i was working on it in the parking lot of my Apartment complex). I sat down on the ground on the right side of the bike and decided to check out all of the harnesses near the front sproket. I started with the one that stuck out.....the vehicle speed sensor harness was grey and all the other ones are black. BAM! about an inch below the female connector the red and black wires to the connector both had bare wire exposed. I temporarily rigged it up so it will work and I never thought I would be so happy to hear that weird fuel pump sound it makes. I jumped up in the air with my hands up and screamed F*%K yeah and there was two middle aged women power walking who gave me a weird look. I will fix it correctly with some heat shrink wrap when I get to the store to purchase one of those pin extractor tools.

 

[Thaloc]

Sweet man! Good find on the fix, bet you cant wait to get back on Her.

 

[zoedogg1]

Wow!! I would've never figured something like that would be the problem. Electrical problems are a real pain in the ass arent they? Glad to hear it is something simple, but man what a head ache to find, huh?
TIME TO CELEBRATE!!! BRING THE GIRLS ON!!..lol...if my beuatiful wife reads this...Im just kidding...really...lol
Good job though YUMA, I knew you'd get it figured out.[up]

 

[LeFox]

I started with the one that stuck out.....the vehicle speed sensor harness was grey and all the other ones are black. BAM! about an inch below the female connector the red and black wires to the connector both had bare wire exposed

did we not tell you to go over the harness and look for bare wires?
btw, that's where the ground cable connection is

 

[YumaBuell]

Yes you did indeed! I just didn't look at those particular ones. I just assumed it would be nead the steering head because it happened right after taking a left turn so I focused on the harnesses near the steering. You live and you learn! This was definately a character building experience! haha. Thanks again for all the great advice guys!