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never had the jardine but they sound good on youtube ,

personally i love the sound ,& perfomance & LOOK of the

Jackpot

pipe !
 
Strawberry, if your trying to lower the sound see if A decible killer is an option the part is easy to install and you can start w/ a piece of alum.,& drill the holes a little at a time. Or you could just extend the tail piece kinda Like a GP that would give you some noise behind you instead of in your helment.Check the Shops in your area for a piece of round stock Aluminum solid & about 1 1/2in., thick .Always drill the center first, at least 1in.hole & go from there around the outside w/ 3/8 depends on what you want 5 holes around the outside of the center hole might work. It w/ take a few tries .Plus your midrange w/ be peppier for around town. The easy thing w/be to let a muffler shop make a shortend slip over for the tailpipe, then drill & see how that works.Then make one out of better material once you find the sound you like ,copy it.Make sure you have a couple of spot welds on the inside so in case you use a round insert it won't go in more than 2in.& fall in the mufflerI have one for my stainless drummer for long trips. Jimi
 
Jardine Pipes are trash. We shouldnt put anything with rivits anywhere near an XB. Jardine pipes shake apart and blow out the packing very quickly. Had one for 8 months and rerivited/repacked it once a month. Garbage. Not for riding hard despite the numbers it may put out.
 
Fiance has a CF one with 2 seasons on it, I know she isn't to hard on it but I know I beat on it. Got it used too, but have yet to need to repack it and or even have it loosen up. Looks mint yet [smirk]

I also have a CF one sitting in the spare bedroom to hold me over until I have a Hawk Pipe made up, it will be up for sale possibly before I even get a chance to install it, just want to rep a great pipe made by a great guy.

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Not sure if you understand decibel ratings or not, but the race pipe being 120db and the Jardine 123db....means that the Jardine is twice the volume. That's how that scale works- every 3db is double the volume.

That's actually not how the scale works. A 3 db difference isn't all that audible, its noticable, but if you're not paying attention you can miss the difference. Its a logarithmic scale so ever 10db = twice as loud. Us who SPL compete get anal about our db's =]
 
I'll be the nerd... 10 db is 10 time the volume. 3 db is twice the volume.

can't tell if you're being serious or not... but this is wrong. Pure and simple. To acheive a 3db difference, you need twice the power. People tend to confuse this with a made of myth that 3db = twice as loud. To get twice as loud to the ear you need right around a 10db difference. At 3db all your doing is creating twice as much sound energy. Our ears don't comprehend that as twice as loud. Numerous and numerous studies have been done to determine what is "twice as loud" since there isn't really a way to measure what us humans hear as twice as loud. But after all the samples, which have been alot, most people put doubling volume right around 10db increase.

didn't mean to get so off topic, but i didn't want the OP to get off topic.
 
Measuring the 'Loudness' of any given pipe is only relative to the distance some one is standing from that pipe (Hense the measurement in db). If you were 10 m from the muffler, a 3 db would not be as big of a difference, as if you were 10 cm from the muffler. At that point the volume would be closer to 2 fold, though it still wouldn't be.

I have had a jardine and a stock. Those have a 9 db difference according to ASB shootout. As the rider, I can honestly say that the jardine was around 3-4 times louder. Still not close to the 10 fold that it theoretically is, but much higher than 2.

IMHO, It would take a difference of 4-5 db to have double the volume to the person riding the motorcycle. That is mostly based off persona experiences and the number from the ASB shootout.

Just my two cents.
 
I just purchased a Jardine RT1 for 275.00 from Starcycle-USA.

And you can get a quiet instert for it if you are concerned about the noise.
 
Measuring the 'Loudness' of any given pipe is only relative to the distance some one is standing from that pipe (Hense the measurement in db). If you were 10 m from the muffler, a 3 db would not be as big of a difference, as if you were 10 cm from the muffler. At that point the volume would be closer to 2 fold, though it still wouldn't be.

I have had a jardine and a stock. Those have a 9 db difference according to ASB shootout. As the rider, I can honestly say that the jardine was around 3-4 times louder. Still not close to the 10 fold that it theoretically is, but much higher than 2.

IMHO, It would take a difference of 4-5 db to have double the volume to the person riding the motorcycle. That is mostly based off persona experiences and the number from the ASB shootout.

Just my two cents.

Actually on the decibel scale, every 3 db is a doubling of perceived volume.
 
I put the jardine slip on my 2008 ulysses and wow..I notice a big differance in power.Im very pleased.
 
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