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I like them all, it's about time harley started making more than just cruisers and touring bikes
I can't wait to see their new 250-500cc dirt bikes coming soon
 
I'm good with 120 hp. That's plenty. Street bikes are getting stupid with the HP. It's fun to twist the throttle wide open for a while and grab a few gears without getting in loose license territory.....


Maybe I'm getting old, but I don't have any need for much more than 100 hp for on the street.
 
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Stella, I assume, is not the SX--I think the SX would blow the doors off the Testy's. Well, glad you lived to tell the tale. I got in a pinch like that last year and found the RX pretty wild around 8000 rpm in 3rd gear.

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Chapter 2 V-rod

So I was deeply conflicted. Love hate--Try to contact HD sometime, what a labyrinth!!!. I just wanted to make some inputs/suggestions about what I thought would be a better V-rod--like talking into an empty mine shaft.

If Erik B had taken the V-Rod and worked his magic we would have the ultimate American Sport Tourer--Anyone know what happened to the V-Rod tooling and all that--what a great opportunity missed.

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Anyone know what happened to the V-Rod tooling and all that

john: H-D gradually dismantles and phases out motor tooling at the driveline facility once the fed-mandated "10 year supply rule" is close to expiring. think in terms of original "evo" and aluminum XL motors. the tooling for the twin-cam 2-valve big-twin....the XR motor....the vrod/revolution motor all remains at the milwaukee power-train/driveline production facility. the vrod was unique in that during its production run it was the only model with the motor, all fabrication and assembly done at the same production facility. H-D right now is sitting on tooling and production equipment for the twin-cam, the XR, all XL, M8, revolution X and revolution(vrod). all will eventually get scrapped for a multitude of reasons BUT insiders say NOT the case for the revolution motor leading me to believe it will appear again somewhere down the road on a completely different platform. NOTE: the revolution motor was THE only motorcycle engine in modern history to pass the "Dusseldorf Destruction Test" with flying colors. typically that test is the death-knell for engines. the revolution motor complete assembly including trans truly is one of the greatest motorcycle engines ever produced. ever!

and speaking of H-D here's an extremely rare photo from the H-D archives. it is the intersection of 37th st. and Highland blvd. in milwaukee. the large home is the original home of the Davidson family where william, walter and arthur were raised. the "shed" is the original H-D building in the back yard that the father built for his sons to tinker in. thought you might enjoy it.
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Anyone know what happened to the V-Rod tooling and all that

john: H-D gradually dismantles and phases out motor tooling at the driveline facility once the fed-mandated "10 year supply rule" is close to expiring. think in terms of original "evo" and aluminum XL motors. the tooling for the twin-cam 2-valve big-twin....the XR motor....the vrod/revolution motor all remains at the milwaukee power-train/driveline production facility. the vrod was unique in that during its production run it was the only model with the motor, all fabrication and assembly done at the same production facility. H-D right now is sitting on tooling and production equipment for the twin-cam, the XR, all XL, M8, revolution X and revolution(vrod). all will eventually get scrapped for a multitude of reasons BUT insiders say NOT the case for the revolution motor leading me to believe it will appear again somewhere down the road on a completely different platform. NOTE: the revolution motor was THE only motorcycle engine in modern history to pass the "Dusseldorf Destruction Test" with flying colors. typically that test is the death-knell for engines. the revolution motor complete assembly including trans truly is one of the greatest motorcycle engines ever produced. ever!

and speaking of H-D here's an extremely rare photo from the H-D archives. it is the intersection of 37th st. and Highland blvd. in milwaukee. the large home is the original home of the Davidson family where william, walter and arthur were raised. the "shed" is the original H-D building in the back yard that the father built for his sons to tinker in. thought you might enjoy it.
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Great history lesson indeed! I assume all of you have watched the docudrama: harley and the davidson's? Great show i thought! I believe it was pretty historically accurate too!
 
thanks one and all. i love most all motorcycles but the history of H-D to this day remains one of the most compelling, enduring and fascinating success stories of the industrial age. here's a few more seldom if ever seen from the archives: in order is the first known pic of the genius behind it all....william harley. second is last known pic of the 3 davidson brothers and william harley all together. william davidson is to the left of the bike in the pic and passed away 6 months later at the age of 66. and lastly is the very first batch of XR750's being assembled on the top floor of the original juneau avenue assembly plant. only the very early 1970 models had the silver colored zinc plated rear exhaust pipe vertical mounting bracket so these are undoubtedly the first ever.

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I couldn’t resist posting a pic of my great Uncle Roy after seeing Lunatic’s old photos Here he is in Cohoes, NY about 1931. If us Buellers were alive in this time period with as much riding experience then as we do now we’d be the most experienced riders in the world.
 
one more because it's my fav and then i'll quit. summer of 1904 and the first "full year" of production. william harley admiring a just completed bike...believed to be probably #10 or so....in front of the back yard shed where it all started.

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one more shaughn. some of these i find a bit haunting. this is last known pic of william harley spring of 1943 on a side street behind the factory. must have been cold ie. the gloves. he passed away a few months later in the late summer/early fall of 1943. i won't name him because it would have the flavor of dick-waving but one of the big kahunas at Harley-Davidson is a friend of mine....has been for years....and from time to time lets me see some really cool stuff. he said this was the only pic of william harley wearing his glasses that he ever saw. the bike in the pic is described as "military runabout" for the war effort made on the cheap. notice the flat-head small motor and non-springer bicycle style front end circa late 20's. probably used for running around military bases and depots.

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Thanks for sharing those pics, John! Very cool! :up:

As for the original topic...I'm excited and sad at the same time to see the new lineup being proposed by HD. I think these bikes look great and it is awesome to see HD looking to produce ADV and streetfighter bikes with new engines. Of course, it is sad that they had this going with Buell years ago and are now reinventing it. It would be interesting to see what Buells might have become with this kind of HD support and the additional years of development had they not been discontinued.
 
LF you are a wonder and I do not mean that lightly. Reading your comments about the V-rod engine tooling sitting in a shed was a real eye opener. I keep thinking of something like the big Honda Blackbird but powered with the V-rod engine. I don't know about everyone else but for me the type that warms me the most is a big powered, full fairing Sport Touring machine.

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