rear slide question

[jbv]

Watching the races, you see the rear wheel slide/lock up frequently before entering a hard turn.

Not one to ride long distances on my bike, but after a 40 mile ride at over 80 mph most of the way, I came into a city street with a little juice, not more than normal and sure enough the rear tire started to slide all over like a wet banana peel.
Not much pressure on rear brake even.

Do tires become more prone to sliding after a long, fast ride?

It could have been an oil patch, I'm going to go back and look.

by the way, I have a virtually new diablo on the rear.
Thanks,

 

[taylor]

was it because you down shifted? XB's dont have slipper clutch's. the motor has to catch up to the speed your going if you down shift, witch means the tire will lock up a bit.

 

[only1reds]

was it because you down shifted? XB's dont have slipper clutch's. the motor has to catch up to the speed your going if you down shift, witch means the tire will lock up a bit.

Happens all the time

 

[Macbuell]

Been riding for 4 months, happens to me maybe 4 or 5 times on downshifts so far. Every time it happens I think the car behind me is laughing.

 

[Buell_Cru]

Macbuell, Normal riding conditions shouldn't do that but if you're down shifting that hard I would make sure you have an awesome maintenance program set in place for your motor and clutches.

I've had my bike since last August and it has done it twice to me. Once on a downshift in the canyon coming into a corner too hot and once when I first got my bike from being on the rear brake a little too hard and not feathering the front.

 

[jbv]

Buell Cru, very likely I did both coming into that corner. Usually I blip hard to get the engine in line but likely I didn't match well. Luckly a leason learned without the consequences.....Thanks everyone.

 

[only1reds]

Rephrase my last statement. I've had it happen to me on city streets approximately 1 or 2 times myself.

 

[mpolans]

Virtually new tire? Perhaps some leftover mold release on the sides?

 

[buelladdicted]

hot tires can slide ,just as cold tires do.they slide for a different reason.cold tires,especially harder compound tires,become more pliable and grip the road better as a result.tires that have reached optimum temperature or have overshot the mark,start to swet the oils there made with and thats why the slideing.Its most likely to happen on street tires,as there usually made with mileage as more of a priority then all out performance.

 

[chase12s]

I like it Do a little dance.

 

[Macbuell]

Sorry, forgot to mention it has happened a couple of those times when wet out

 

[LeFox]

the reason it the rear slides/powerdrifts is because of the hard breaking going in the corner and acceleration through the corner.

it's a inevitable under their conditions but also allows you to go faster through corners.

as for tires sliding when they are warm...yes, when tires get to hot, they start sliding since the rubber melts. that's why you have different tire compounds.

 

[TechMagic]

I find that popping the throttle a bit before each downshift lets the bike rev-match more and I believe is easier on the whole drive train.

 

[iluvmath]

I've done it for sure, several times in the same spot; a steep downhill ending in lights, after a long fast curve. All that weight up front and the rapid downshift breaks the rear end loose. A little blipping helps a lot. it made me nervous until i got more used to the bike.

 

[jbv]

Yup, the downshift from 3 to 1 with out the blip is what caused the rear to go squirly. Tried it again, same spot and sure enough, the buell disco slide. Kind a fun now I know to expect it. Easy enough to correct with a good blip..