Rep points, it's like we're in High School. I'm cooler then you cause I have more rep points! BLAH!!! I feel that you can either take my advice or leave it, believe it or not I usually know wht I'm talking about there are just way to many people that can't except constructive critisim. Case in point the other day while at the gym ( I have been active duty military for 13 years, a certified personal trainer, and pretty hardcore into bodybuilding) any way saw these two young marines couldn't have been in longer than 2 years. You know the ones that think they are badass's and know everything. I was observing during my normal workout routine, they were doing curls with way to much what, when you have to hump the air to get the dumbbell up its to much. I was nice and said hey guys. It's not about weight it's about form, I told them that this was something that took me a major shoulder reconstruction to learn and that with proper form and lighter weight you can get to where u want to be. I got the you don't know wtf your talking about look so I went on my way. So sorry to vent so long. Like I said take my advice or not give me a rep point or not. I don't care because I know that I'm right!