Hey Thaloc,maybe that guy on the cbr didn't want to skuf up his knee pucks,you know how much those are to replace?In Cali,we have what is called" four corners"It is a section of Highway 1 that leads into a 4-way intersection that has gas,food and a bar.Very big with the bike crowd.On a good day about 200-300 bikes will pass through 4-corners,very high death rate though,it ate my cbr600f1 some years back[smirk]