Thought on patching tires?

[Junkbone]

This is just a no brainer for me. I'm not the most safety savvy guy around, hell I push the limit all the time. But on a bike, the number one thing you don't go cheap on is your tires.I'm rollin on all four used tires on my old 62 Beetle. They are full of plugs and I don't sweat it, if one blows up on me, I got 3 more. But on my bike, I don't think I could ever ride the damn thing without wondering if its gonna blow in the next turn. Piece of mind is what your actually paying for.

 

[user_deleted]

cant safely be ridden over 75 mph is just an over powered over priced moped

hey damn it...stop talking about my electra glide.

 

[Mark XB12r]

Riding on an improperly repaired tire is dangerous. An improper repair can cause further damage to the tire. It may suddenly fail, causing serious personal injury or death. To be safe, go to your local dealer for proper tire repairs.

The term Improper here used repeatedly tells me that im right and your wrong, I have several sizes of reamers and patches to match. Using the correct reamer for the application has much to do with the term proper repair.

Use your money as you see fit, no problems there, whatever makes you comfortable is always better. I choose to be informed and not use voodoo or old wives tales in my maintenance regiment.

Since I have joined this forum I have read so much conjecture on a few subjects that is just maddening to me. It just bothers me when conjecture is passed on as fact.

If it makes you feel better then change em, but don't spread the info as fact if its not. If your not sure just say something like. "for my piece of mind I change them"

You guys act as if a tire will catastrophically fail in a fiery explosion. At best it will just have a total pressure loss similar to any other sudden pressure loss from hitting road debris or any other reason for failure. But in no way are these tires so fragile that they will fly apart at the smallest defect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsgxe681xNg&feature=related

 

[anrkizm95]

if you want to limit the speed of your buell to 75 i guess thats up to you.ride safe

You guys act as if a tire will catastrophically fail

yea they sure can and that has led to fiery explosions.it really dosnt seem likt you have been in the tire business long or dont do that many

 

[anrkizm95]

 

[Junkbone]

At best it will just have a total pressure loss similar to any other sudden pressure loss from hitting road debris or any other reason for failure

Ok, thanks for allowing that something COULD happen. Now with that said, would you want it to happen doing 60 on a mountian road? I agree that they don't just fly apart, but a floppy tire spinning that fast can do a hell of a lot of damage. This topic was referring to an otherwise good tire but the same plug in an already wore tire CAN fly apart.

 

[crawfo]

I don't think my local bike shop will even repair tires if you beg them. I'm pretty sure they air on the side of caution and replace all damaged tires. That is what I have always done as well. Just my 2 cents.

 

[wally]

Plugs last! You can not repair it if it is too close to the shoulder, on the side-wall or if the tread is too low. I push my Uly off road, over 140km/h and it still lasts. Had one on my SRAD, same thing - no issues. They are worth it, but only if the application allows/warrants it.

 

[GAXB9R]

 

[Mark XB12r]

I don't know what the truck video is supposed to show me. Maybe that your other theory is wrong too...

The "I atleast have three other tires" theory...

I don't think my local bike shop will even repair tires if you beg them. I'm pretty sure they air on the side of caution and replace all damaged tires. That is what I have always done as well. Just my 2 cents.

Crafo... this is for liability. Regardless of plugging a tire was done correctly or not. Any lawsuit can cost three times the amount you will make from plugging tires, even if you win... Shops wont do alot of things to your bike because of this.

 

[Mark XB12r]

if you want to limit the speed of your buell to 75 i guess thats up to you.ride safe

I will take this as your concession
Have a nice day Brian

 

[anrkizm95]

I will take this as your concession
Have a nice day Brian

you to mark.and what does my hotdogs and sodas have to do with this.

 

[Mark XB12r]

Nice... Hahaha; i should have restructured the sentence, and used the proper word.

What are ya gonna do? oh well! Maybe I was hungry when I wrote that.

 

[Junkbone]

I don't know what the truck video is supposed to show me. Maybe that your other theory is wrong too...

The "I atleast have three other tires" theory...

Just trying to keep the comments straight. The 3 other tire comment was mine. Not the truck vid. What other theory of mine is wrong? I'm pretty sure the gist of all my comments were that riding a streetbike on a plugged tire (plugged right or wrong)is a BAD idea. I can stand by that.

 

[crawfo]

Crafo... this is for liability. Regardless of plugging a tire was done correctly or not. Any lawsuit can cost three times the amount you will make from plugging tires, even if you win... Shops wont do alot of things to your bike because of this.

My point was that if there is reason to be concerned about liability there is enough reason to replace it. Again, just my opinion, which is what the OP was looking for, not arguing.

 

[Mark XB12r]

Wrong again Crwfo. Its about money... Ask any shop owner. Auto, motorcycle, or otherwise. Weather your right or wrong a lawsuit costs to much money to defend. and that also affects your insurance coverage as well. Trust me its about money.

As a shop owner you can patch a tire perfectly, and the tire may not even fail, but if the operator crashes from cooking a corner too hot. A lawyer can file a suit and your out a ton o money if you win the suit or not.

Money money money... Before you reply... go ask a shop owner about liability then come back and reply

 

[crawfo]

Just because I have a different opinion doesn't make me automatically wrong just because you own a shop. We should be able to be adults and agree to disagree rather than you just saying over and over again that i am wrong. The OP was asking for opinions, everyone on the site is entitled to give him theirs.

 

[Mark XB12r]

well said... but it is about money, not about your favorite shop refusing to patch tires making it not advisable. I would listen to tire manufactures before the opinion of your favorite shop.

difference of opinion is exactly that, and if you payed attention I said i hate when people pass opinion off as fact, i never said its bad to maintain the opinion you have... read back my many posts and see for yourselves.

when you say your shop refuses to do it so that means there is a reason for that i just corrected your reason... sorry if this offends you. go ask your favorite shop for yourself.

I also dont own a shop either. im not sure if i gave the impression that i did, sorry for that

 

[crawfo]

Nothing that you said has offended me. As far as you blatantly telling me I was wrong, that just made me laugh seeing as I never said that my reasoning was based on concrete facts. I said that since some professionals stay away from doing it for liability reasons that is enough for me to stay away from it. Every situation is different. There for my reason did not need to be corrected. And please stop ordering me to ask shops or shop owners things. I don't need to, I stand firm on this belief.

 

[Junkbone]

This could be so much cleaner if we just put it to a vote from here. Plug tire or not? For this purpose, figure the hole was caused by a roofing nail or about that size.