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Did you swap the Uly? Or both the Uly and EBR?
Like this one?
Yes, 34,
That is the very bike. So far a good ride, although I have only done 50-60 miles. Some obvious needs--one being a bit of a windscreen and then have to sort out a luggage deal. The right side pipes get in the way of any saddle bags for sure as do the X Shocks.
Very spirited ride, handles really well and quite flicky around town. They say it will do 140mph but I doubt I will experience that. It seems quite comfy in the 60-80 range.
It is virtually a new bike although it is a 2012--going to need some new skins next Spring.
Take Care,
Opto
That is the very bike. So far a good ride, although I have only done 50-60 miles. Some obvious needs--one being a bit of a windscreen and then have to sort out a luggage deal. The right side pipes get in the way of any saddle bags for sure as do the X Shocks.
Very spirited ride, handles really well and quite flicky around town. They say it will do 140mph but I doubt I will experience that. It seems quite comfy in the 60-80 range.
It is virtually a new bike although it is a 2012--going to need some new skins next Spring.
Take Care,
Opto
Barrett
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some interesting XR1200 tidbits, as per the factory guys....a few of whom still to this day, believe it was the greatest bike Harley-Davidson ever built. personally, it's at the top of my list.
TOTAL PRODUCTION INCLUDING SERIES EVENT UNITS---CERTIFYING UNITS: 10706
ONLY 3587 WENT TO US DEALERS---6932 WERE EXPORT UNITS
6580 ARE XR MODELS---4126 ARE XRX MODELS
i don't have the unit numbers for production color break-downs but can probably get them.
your model as pictured has the Non-LA motor. my three all have LA motors.
several nice choices available for a windscreen BUT keep it minimal. anything much larger than what i've installed typically induces both wild buffeting and alarming "head-shake" at speed.
a simple muffler change in conjunction with either a V&H or Patriot tuning module, easily gets you to the 102HP mark and over 80ft-lbs or torque.
consider swapping the stock 28T front belt pulley for a 29T. plenty of adjustability via both the belt and tensioner to do it.
really calms down the motor "at speed" and just a more pleasant ride. CAN ONLY be done with locker tool and factory style pulley nut socket.
only factory-issued luggage options ever available that i recall are:
REAR TAIL RACK---#53920-08.....ORIGINAL LIST $119.90
FACTORY TAIL RACK LUGGAGE BAG--90409-08.....ORIGINAL LIST $169.40
there are factory side-mount soft bags but quite expensive and smallish in size. but top quality pieces.
here's my two black models. searched for almost a year for a mirage orange pearl model and just found a low-mileage creampuff and bought it. i'll get you a pic soon.
TOTAL PRODUCTION INCLUDING SERIES EVENT UNITS---CERTIFYING UNITS: 10706
ONLY 3587 WENT TO US DEALERS---6932 WERE EXPORT UNITS
6580 ARE XR MODELS---4126 ARE XRX MODELS
i don't have the unit numbers for production color break-downs but can probably get them.
your model as pictured has the Non-LA motor. my three all have LA motors.
several nice choices available for a windscreen BUT keep it minimal. anything much larger than what i've installed typically induces both wild buffeting and alarming "head-shake" at speed.
a simple muffler change in conjunction with either a V&H or Patriot tuning module, easily gets you to the 102HP mark and over 80ft-lbs or torque.
consider swapping the stock 28T front belt pulley for a 29T. plenty of adjustability via both the belt and tensioner to do it.
really calms down the motor "at speed" and just a more pleasant ride. CAN ONLY be done with locker tool and factory style pulley nut socket.
only factory-issued luggage options ever available that i recall are:
REAR TAIL RACK---#53920-08.....ORIGINAL LIST $119.90
FACTORY TAIL RACK LUGGAGE BAG--90409-08.....ORIGINAL LIST $169.40
there are factory side-mount soft bags but quite expensive and smallish in size. but top quality pieces.
here's my two black models. searched for almost a year for a mirage orange pearl model and just found a low-mileage creampuff and bought it. i'll get you a pic soon.
Thanks for the info, Barrett, More than that, thanks for steering me in the XR direction. Your windscreen is just right so I am hunting around for one.
I will keep the addons simple--just some room for a bit of kit and a sleeping bag. This is a whole new experience for me and I am quite enjoying it.
LA motor?
Opto
I will keep the addons simple--just some room for a bit of kit and a sleeping bag. This is a whole new experience for me and I am quite enjoying it.
LA motor?
Opto
I realize I am hi-jacking this thread so this will be my last XR comments--Barrett--actually one of the areas about this XR that concerns me is the so-called security system and the "fob". The fob thing distresses me because it looks like at some point it will fail me. I understand (from H-D) that for $400 one can get that feature removed. I only require a key switch.
Thoughts on that? Also what is your windshield choice--it looks good.
Opto
Thoughts on that? Also what is your windshield choice--it looks good.
Opto
Heres some thoughts. Take it for what its worth, as it is speculation.
On my 2016 Roadster, it came as a regular keyed setup and the keyed setup was not able to be converted to keyless.
I checked with Harley and while they could put a security system with a fob as a Harley accessory, it would still need the key.
I looked it up online and sure enough converting it to keyless would require a new wire harness, BCM and related accessories.
Since it was a bunch of hoops to jump through to go from keyed to keyless, you may have the same hurdles to go the other way.
Granted, my Roadster used CAN-BUS, and I'm not certain if your XR does. If so, I would imagine you are in the same boat as I. If not, it may be an easier conversion that imagined.
However, on my Roadster it had 2 separate cylinders for the steering lock and ignition key.
Also, if you can do this swap, you may want/need to buy two cylinders, so they key matches between the two.
***bear in mind, I have never owned a XR, so I am making assumptions that the XR is similar to my Roadster
34--I will keep the key switch/steering lock but hope to loose the "Fob". It is kind of a proximity switch. If you don't have it near the bike it won't start. If it(Fob) has a dead battery it won't activate either. I can make the XR1200X fobless but it will cost $400 bucks at the H-D shop. It seems worth it 'cause I see a scenario where you are basically shut down because your FOB died or it fell in the creek or whatever.
Barrett--thoughts?
Also--due to the weird tire size on the front--120/70 ZR18--tire availability is reduced. Barrett what are you running on yours?
I watched "On any Sunday" on Amz. A motorcycle documentary done in 1970 by Bruce Brown. I missed it back then. It is totally awesome--50 years ago and they were kicking butt big time.
Opto
Barrett--thoughts?
Also--due to the weird tire size on the front--120/70 ZR18--tire availability is reduced. Barrett what are you running on yours?
I watched "On any Sunday" on Amz. A motorcycle documentary done in 1970 by Bruce Brown. I missed it back then. It is totally awesome--50 years ago and they were kicking butt big time.
Opto
No worries on the Hi-jack Opto, I love these things! I'm cataloging all the good info John passed along and someday hope to have an XR of my own
Whats an XRX? and ya, whats an LA motor?
Whats an XRX? and ya, whats an LA motor?
Barrett
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Shaughn: the factory and the dealers distinguish between the 2 models as either XR or XR-X. as memory serves, the X has a vented oil tank...floating front brake rotors...blacked out exhaust....multi-adjustable F&R suspension....remote reservoir on rear shocks...MSRP slightly higher. unfortunately, NO mirage orange pearl color offered for that model. there is no specific designation in an XR VIN to denote factory color. but there are at least 2 hidden factory stickers signed by the original H-D painter, from which the factory color can be determined.
XR has the LA motor....XR-X has the N(non)LA motor. all XR motors built and assembled at powertrain operations in Menomonee Falls, WI. all XR's assembled at the now shuttered Kansas City plant...with the exception of the 100 or so assembled at the Brazil plant, for Brazilian consumption/sales only. those have a distinctive VIN. the LA motor is silver natural cast finish parts with what i would call "Buell-spec" cams and top-end components, and ram-air. the non-LA motor is the same but blacked-out finish on all components. the motors/trans units were given these distinctive designations so that both the powertrain assemblers as well as the KC assembly line workers, would know what motors went into which models. make sense?
John: your XR alarm system was an expensive option. retain it. the FOB is a proximity style FOB. its internal battery is a popular #2032 lithium style. simply pop open the FOB with straight head screwdriver and replace the battery every 4-5 years. what nobody seems to be aware of except most dealers, is that the actual alarm system control module has its own self-contained battery. in size and appearance it resembles a small 9-volt battery. it is continuously charged by the bike's battery. supposedly has an infinite life-span but have heard of a few dealers replacing them to rectify system problem. the alarm system is bomb-proof and H-D has built and installed millions of them across-the-board. NO idea why you would not be satisfied with it, but if for some odd reason you are, then simply disarm it. said instructions are tedious but spelled out in owners manual.
PS-run a quality JASO-MA/MA-2 rated synthetic in the primary/trans. Amsoil 20W50 syn and dedicated 20w50 v-twin syn excellent. mobil-1 20w50 cycle specific also excellent. i'm sure there's a few others. the XR trans can be a bit "notchy" with conventional 20w50 cycle specific oil.
and there ya go!
disarm instructions as per OM
XR has the LA motor....XR-X has the N(non)LA motor. all XR motors built and assembled at powertrain operations in Menomonee Falls, WI. all XR's assembled at the now shuttered Kansas City plant...with the exception of the 100 or so assembled at the Brazil plant, for Brazilian consumption/sales only. those have a distinctive VIN. the LA motor is silver natural cast finish parts with what i would call "Buell-spec" cams and top-end components, and ram-air. the non-LA motor is the same but blacked-out finish on all components. the motors/trans units were given these distinctive designations so that both the powertrain assemblers as well as the KC assembly line workers, would know what motors went into which models. make sense?
John: your XR alarm system was an expensive option. retain it. the FOB is a proximity style FOB. its internal battery is a popular #2032 lithium style. simply pop open the FOB with straight head screwdriver and replace the battery every 4-5 years. what nobody seems to be aware of except most dealers, is that the actual alarm system control module has its own self-contained battery. in size and appearance it resembles a small 9-volt battery. it is continuously charged by the bike's battery. supposedly has an infinite life-span but have heard of a few dealers replacing them to rectify system problem. the alarm system is bomb-proof and H-D has built and installed millions of them across-the-board. NO idea why you would not be satisfied with it, but if for some odd reason you are, then simply disarm it. said instructions are tedious but spelled out in owners manual.
PS-run a quality JASO-MA/MA-2 rated synthetic in the primary/trans. Amsoil 20W50 syn and dedicated 20w50 v-twin syn excellent. mobil-1 20w50 cycle specific also excellent. i'm sure there's a few others. the XR trans can be a bit "notchy" with conventional 20w50 cycle specific oil.
and there ya go!
disarm instructions as per OM
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Thanks, Barrett, that is a lot of useful information.
Cooter, I am not sure you would find the XR very comfy as you are a long legged guy--but you can try mine out.
I will probably retain the fob thingy, but it is just one more thing to fuss over is all. Probably a good idea to change out that battery as the bike is 8 years old so who knows..?
I know if I want simple go with the early Sporty--XLCH --Well that option is out unless I stumble upon one for a decent price. One bike in the garage is all I can handle for now.
One other issue is tires. What are you running on your XR's, Barrett? I wanted to go with the Avon Trail Riders, like I had on the Uly, but they don't have the ZR18 front for the XR.
What windshield did you put on your XR? Harley offers one but it is big $.
Once again--check out www.cycle-ergo.com ---it is free and so helpful to size bikes in relation to your shape.
Opto
I want something good in the wet and on forestry roads. All my trips end up with some dirt roads here and there--
Cooter, I am not sure you would find the XR very comfy as you are a long legged guy--but you can try mine out.
I will probably retain the fob thingy, but it is just one more thing to fuss over is all. Probably a good idea to change out that battery as the bike is 8 years old so who knows..?
I know if I want simple go with the early Sporty--XLCH --Well that option is out unless I stumble upon one for a decent price. One bike in the garage is all I can handle for now.
One other issue is tires. What are you running on your XR's, Barrett? I wanted to go with the Avon Trail Riders, like I had on the Uly, but they don't have the ZR18 front for the XR.
What windshield did you put on your XR? Harley offers one but it is big $.
Once again--check out www.cycle-ergo.com ---it is free and so helpful to size bikes in relation to your shape.
Opto
I want something good in the wet and on forestry roads. All my trips end up with some dirt roads here and there--
Re: XR1200X
So I solved my saddle bag problem temporally by using my old set of throw over leather bags that have been on at least 6 bikes. I will go with the Spitfire windscreen so now I am ready for mini-cruising.
The big problem is still TIRES. I would like to head in the direction of Adventure tires but not overly aggressive with big knobbies and stuff. Problem is the ZR18 front is a rare size.
What are you using for tires, Barrett?
Opto
So I solved my saddle bag problem temporally by using my old set of throw over leather bags that have been on at least 6 bikes. I will go with the Spitfire windscreen so now I am ready for mini-cruising.
The big problem is still TIRES. I would like to head in the direction of Adventure tires but not overly aggressive with big knobbies and stuff. Problem is the ZR18 front is a rare size.
What are you using for tires, Barrett?
Opto
Well, no well wishers for me and my XR so I guess I am history on this channel. Anyone need some free stuff--I forgot to take a few things to the trade in.
1. Stock Uly Windshield
2. Uly '09 Drive belt in good condition
3. Stock ECM for the Uly
Opto
1. Stock Uly Windshield
2. Uly '09 Drive belt in good condition
3. Stock ECM for the Uly
Opto
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The color combo looks great, classic Harley .
njloco
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You'll still come by and say hello, yes ?
Now that I think about it, do you by any chance have the rear plastic fender that holds the brake light, license plate and left and right blinkers on for a Ully ?
Now that I think about it, do you by any chance have the rear plastic fender that holds the brake light, license plate and left and right blinkers on for a Ully ?
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John - All of your bikes are amazing. You have a keen eye and all of your bikes are beautifully maintained and cared for.
