Which brake pads to take for ZTL2 ?

[Niklos]

Hi everyone.

I would like to buy some new brake pads for my Buell. Not that I need them but I would like to have some spare one, just in case.
I was wondering which to take for road use only. I was concidering the Braking 939CM55 (60€ I don't know if this price is for 2 or 4 pads, I asked the seller, we'll see) or the Brembo 07HD19SA (68.90€ this price is for 4 pads). But, well, is there any other brand I should concider ? Those are the only 2 I found that would fit ZTL2.
Any idea ?
Thanks !

 

[mike lowary]

FA454/4HH. Ebc sintered pads. It’s what I use and they work perfectly

 

[konarider94]

FA454/4HH. Ebc sintered pads. It’s what I use and they work perfectly

If you like those give the EBC EPFA454/4HH a try next time. I think they have a lot better initial bite without being too crazy. Either way EBC has been the best with brake dust and noise. https://ebcbrakes.com/product/extreme-pro-brake-pads/

People used to swear by the lyndall gold pads and I couldnt stand them. I have also tried hawk hh rated pads and they are not bad but not as good as ebc. Whatever you get just be sure to stick with a pad that has a HH rating. That is the friction rating of the pad.

 

[mike lowary]

Mite check those out next time. Ebr front master cylinder takes the Ztl2 to a different level.

 

[Cooter]

Kona, Thats really good info about the EBC Extreme performance pads. I've been looking for exactly that (a little more initial bite. I'll try them out:up:

And Mike, thats funny right?? I converted my bike to ZTL2 and a 19mm Buell master and liked it a TON. I got a 19mm radial EBR master thinking it would be about the same, and surprisingly it is way better and for the life of me I would have never guessed that being the same bore.

 

[mike lowary]

What Buell had a non radial 19mm master?

 

[mike lowary]

I though it was 1/2 inch master for ztl, 5/8 for ztl2, and 3/4 for radial ebr

 

[Cooter]

From what I know (which aint much, lol), there was only 2 Buell OE masters. All the Buells with the ZTL2 had a 19mm master. Pretty much '08-up except the City-X that still had the 1/2" with the ZTL like all the '03-'08 bikes (IIRC).

The only 5/8" (17mm) I ever heard of, used to be sold as an 'upgrade' from ASB. But IMO, you'd just get a stiffer lever.

The EBR radial is 19mm also for it's ZTL2 but I've never bothered to calculate lever ratios. Maybe thats the difference?

I have a complete ZTL-2 set-up from an '09, I'll go look at the master today. The size should be cast into the housing.

 

[34nineteen]

Heh heh.... he said “stiffer”

 

[Cooter]

Heh heh heh. Hey Beavis!

I looked in my Buell parts bin and I only have the 1/2" bore non-radial with ZTL, and a ZTL2 with a couple radial EBR 19mm masters. I don't know where the old Buell ZTL2 non-radial master went that I had on Stella? I'm still really sure it was 19mm also, but no pics

 

[Niklos]

Thanks guys,
I'll get the EBC EPFA454/4HH !

 

[mike lowary]

Heh heh heh. Hey Beavis!

I looked in my Buell parts bin and I only have the 1/2" bore non-radial with ZTL, and a ZTL2 with a couple radial EBR 19mm masters. I don't know where the old Buell ZTL2 non-radial master went that I had on Stella? I'm still really sure it was 19mm also, but no pics[/QUOTE


I need confirmation that I’m wrong before I tell my funny story. John, is cooter rite about the master sizes?

 

[outthere]

Radial with built in reservoir.

 

[Cooter]

NO. he is wrong.

Ok then, I'm wrong But I've never heard of a 5/8" Buell OE master, that's why I went to go look.


So LF, would you please be constructive and enlighten all of us on it's existence?

 

[Cooter]

Radial with built in reservoir.

Sexy race parts! $$$

It hard to imagine Buell XB's/EBR's only ever had 2 sizes of calipers (ZTL and ZTL2) but THREE M/C sizes!? Not a very OE thing to do.

Still waiting on LF confirmation.

 

[konarider94]

Thanks guys,
I'll get the EBC EPFA454/4HH !

you should be happy with them

 

[Cooter]

ZTL2 MASTER CYLINDER PART # H0507.1AMC---piston bore size ID is 14mm.

Thanks for all the extra info LF, but could you please clarify the answer we're asking?
Are you saying the stock front master for a Buell XB with ZTL-2 is 14mm? Where did you get the size from?
I believe thats the correct master cylinder part number for a ZTL-2 caliper, but the only specs I found for that part number refer to a 3/4" rebuild kit, like the one I had.

I'm not trying to argue with you. Just trying to avoid bad info, especially if it's me giving it! :black_eyed:

 

[34nineteen]

Ok then, I'm wrong But I've never heard of a 5/8" Buell OE master, that's why I went to go look.


So 34:19, would you please be constructive and enlighten all of us on it's existence?

Cooter is wrong!!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Cooter]

I love your Jeremy Clarkson toolkit, you smarty pants LOL

5/8" on a Tuber = 16mm, not the (9/16") 14mm XB odd-ball that LF claims. I just don't see 14mm master being big enough for a ZTL-2 to even function.

For now, I'll stick to what I know from my experience. 19mm ONLY for a ZTL-2 caliper, because that is the stock size that comes on all Buells with that caliper. XB, and 1125.

 

[34nineteen]

I love your Jeremy Clarkson toolkit, you smarty pants LOL

5/8" on a Tuber = 16mm, not the (9/16") 14mm XB odd-ball that LF claims. I just don't see 14mm master being big enough for a ZTL-2 to even function.

For now, I'll stick to what I know from my experience. 19mm ONLY for a ZTL-2 caliper, because that is the stock size that comes on all Buells with that caliper. XB, and 1125.

Thats part of my Cooter tuber toolkit. LOL.

My XB has a 1/2" master on it. I wonder why tubers ran a 5/8, they ran a 6 piston Nissin caliper also. Maybe the pistons were a larger on the tuber one. My S1 has the PM caliper on it. I wonder if the 5/8 master was only tied to the PM caliper applications.

Either way, I couldn't resist heckling you. LOL!!!!!