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I'm retired Army (with 6 yrs USMC) and work on Picatinny Arsenal. Prior to this morning, the policy has been 100% ID check at the gate so DoD decals were not required. I got stopped at the gate this morning for not having a decal and was informed of the policy change.

I don't want to put the decal on my bike but I have to. I'm looking for ideas on where to put the decal to not screw up my polished surfaces or plastic. Any ideas?!?!?!?
 
One of the popular things to do is just get a metal plate and mount it on the front or the side of the bike, just try to get it on the left side so it'll be easier for the gate guard to see.
 
The policy change was that 4 wheeled vehicles no longer needed the decal but motorcycles were kept on the program. The reason for that is active/retired personnel have to prove that they have been to a MSF course to ride on post, the card must be shown at registry to get a decal at the Provost Marshal. unless you are non-military then they don't care as much.

As for sticker ideas, most of us get a small piece of aluminum sheet about the same size as a 3 sticker set and bolt it on through an existing hole. Sorry I don't have a pictured example for ya.
 
The policy change was that 4 wheeled vehicles no longer needed the decal but motorcycles were kept on the program. The reason for that is active/retired personnel have to prove that they have been to a MSF course to ride on post, the card must be shown at registry to get a decal at the Provost Marshal. unless you are non-military then they don't care as much.
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The post I work on has very few "troops" on it. I would say less than 100 active duty, with a Marine Reserve unit. Even when the "policy" everywhere else in the military required the MSF, Picatinny did not. (Or it was just not enforced)

I'm going tomorrow to get the decal, thanks for the input it is appriated.
 
I'm prior service marines but didn't have my bike when I was in. I bought my buell from an army dog and he had his on the fork. It didn't look bad or gaudy and when I took it off it didn't leave a mess.
 
Its got to be certain installations. I'm in the Army stations at Scott AFB. No decal here, just ID. But sometimes they will make me stop and take off my helmet, and sunglasses at the gate. So as an Ass I will make it take forever, slowing the gate traffic. Its only like one or two guards that do it.
When I was at Ft Carson it was a decal, but they were trying to go to some sort of CAC card swipe. with now guard in each lane, just the stupid arm. not sure if that lasted.
 
Its got to be certain installations. I'm in the Army stations at Scott AFB. No decal here, just ID.
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Air Force has done away with the stickers. However, if you're on an ACC base, they make you take their special riding course and place a small sticker (about 1"x1") on your bike. Marines/Navy are the only installations that still require the stickers (for the most part), and there might be a couple Army bases out there as well.
 
As far as the riding endorsements, I was told that M.P.s can pull you over at anytime to check. Plus its up to your command. The new rules for the stupid classes is just getting worse. now if you haven't had your initial rider course with in 5 years, you have to take some kind of a refresher. On top of the advanced rider and sportbike courses.

Also what sucks about riding here on an AFB, I have to wear a vest as opposed to a belt that the army requires.
 
It's base dependent with the stickers. I am at an ACC base. I have the sticker but I don't put it on my bike. If you have your MSF Card your good to go. However, sometimes you have to deal with Security Forces that think you should have it on your bike. My experience has been that it's base dependent. I don't like putting the sticker on my bike. It doesn't change anything. If that's the case then why do I have to have the MSF card? I feel like I've been taking crazy pills.
 
I had to take the refresher BRC this past may and I have the sticker on my left fork of my 954...thats the only bike I would try to take on an active duty base... It's also registered with the MUSTT program my wing command uses to track rider's safety stuff... My buell and streetfighter would pass for me to get on base but I'd have to get a temporary pass for them every time...
 
Haha I love the fact my base consists of about 20 active duty, we don't have checks at the gate..., so therefore you can drive whatever you like without hassle
 
I am a civilian that works on an Air Force Base. Decals are not required for base entry here as they have switched to the DBIDS program (CAC Card enrollment verified via hand scanners). However, when I was in the Army, they were required still. I had mine attached to the outside of the left fork just below the handlebars. didnt look too bad...and it came off fairly easily.
 
Also what sucks about riding here on an AFB, I have to wear a vest as opposed to a belt that the army requires.
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Scott AFB Requires a vest? The rules here at Robins AFB say we just have to have 360 degrees of reflective material...be it a Vest, Belt, Etc... Sometimes I ride with just a reflective belt slung across my body. I have to keep a reflective belt on my backpack too.

As far as the rules...I'm finding out that it seems to be base/command directed.
 
I was at Fort Carson from 08-11 and we had the decals etc. Never got harassed on post and had to wear the vest...It's really not a huge deal...but it is what it is.
 
The new rules for the stupid classes is just getting worse
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gonna have to step on this one...

former Navy/Army vet, MSF and CMSP instructor...the classes are set up for your safety, to learn how to properly operate your machine and to make you aware of your surroundings. there's a lot more involved than just swinging your leg over the seat and rolling on the throttle and trying to copy what the pros do for a living. vest or belt, either way makes you more visible...yes I know and heard the stories about it not helping being seen by other drivers. the military has two purposes for it, one to help protect you and the other to cover their ass. if you get into an accident and you're not wearing the vest or belt or approved reflective article, yes you'll be treated at a military installation or civilian hospital, but you will pay the medical bills out of pocket. "accountability"...just play the game 'til you either separate or retire from the military, but if you plan on riding on base afterwards, you're subject to the rules once again, just FYI.

as for the stickers, the forks are the best place to have 'em placed just below the lower triple
 
stationed at McConnell afb in Kansas and no stickers needed, just id and comp card proving I have taken the safety course
 
Doc13 the vest sucks, We only had to have a belt on Carson, but that was back in 95-01, then I have ridden on post a few times when I back visiting family in the last 4 years, and always wore a belt. Last time I was there was 2010 tho.
 
Currently a SF member at Langley, it's all how they want to interpret the reg. our boss here rides and so is very loose with his interpretations, you technically don't need a "vest" just 360 reflection as someone else said, so a all white long sleeve works here as its the most reflective color. Again all up to how your base wants to interpret the reg, and navy bases are way behind in still using the decal system, it's been out of date since 9/11 and that's why everyone is moving away from it. For Air Force bases it's reg 31-101
 
I have asked around here at the safety office but nobody can give me a solid answer.
I have been told by some that I can get away with my riding jacket so long as its a bright color and reflective.
But since I have an desert tan Army riding jacket, they wont answer that. So they say I have to wear a vest.
But the command Im under says I have to wear a vest no matter what. Just don't know how it will be when I PCS to another installation.
 

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