Anti traffic deterrance devises

[Stevenc150]

Love my P99 - Hate the high ammo prices.... [down]

 

[1stxb9r]

i carry my Ruger in a cheap uncle mikes holster too, tucked inside my pants right above my right back pocket. pull the clutch in and let'er rip.

 

[XBChrisalto]

Love my P99 - Hate the high ammo prices....

That's why I bought a P22.
Still fun to shoot.

 

[Nuage420b]

I'm buying a second XD either the 9 or the 40 XDM when i get home, and I'll be eligable to CC in Texas too so I'll probably get a CC and open carry and shoulder harness it when I ride.

 

[1stxb9r]

Texas has open carry permits? THATS BADA$$[up][up] Indiana only has concealed carry but for $125 you can get a lifetime permit!

 

[Nuage420b]

Not sure but if they don't it doesn't stop anyone. once you have the CC it doesn't really matter if they see a bulge or the grips peecking out of your jacket or shirt. every one in texas is armed. it tripped me out coming from MD/D.C. where guns are the devil. and to see the signs at malls and **** and all over the cities only certain buildings prohibit weapons. Bars, movie theaters, and govt buildings so far as I can tell. every where else no one cares. And people wonder why crime rates are so bad in DC and MD yet virginia and west virginia right next door are considerably safer and allow guns.

 

[Nuage420b]

I tried to trade my M9 for this Iraqi commanders P99. My Lt. Caught me :0 (

I was close, ended up with some 9mm hollows though [up][up][up][up]

 

[buellet proof]

1stxb9r you can open carry in IN if you have your permit to carry. Unless the laws have changed lately.
Devil, is that a pancake Don Hume?
Nuage, in front is not really comfortable while riding for me.
I have a blackhawk serpa awsome holster but it sets right on my hip bone when standing.

 

[Nuage420b]

I dont like the Serpa. most of the guys out here buy them cuz it's BLACKHAWK!! I have a safari land with the thumb roll retention. Far and away more secure during combat no chance of knocking off of safe or half cocking or even full cocking (even though when i go out I'm chambered and half cocked on fire) i hate seeing POGs walking around the FOB with their high speed **** and you can tell their arms swinging has knocked their selectors. I wouldn't know about riding comfort with the pistol in front as I just learned how to ride up in MD and all my guns are still in Texas. but i can imagine it sucks but I have issues with holstering in the small of the back. It's not a natural draw, it's slower, easier for someone to disarm you if the situation arose, and for me less concealable back there. Just like wearing all your riding gear you sacrifice a little comfort for the greater protection right? I think that's why I will look into the shoulder harness if i chose to carry while i ride, or even a snub nose in the small jacket pocket would suffice. It's cool to bust out a big 45 or something that just looks menacing but truth be told a gun is a gun is a gun and it should only be drawn to eliminate a threat to life, whether i draw a snubby 38 special or a DE .50 who ever is on the wrong end shouldn't have time to figure out anything other than "I'm HIT?!?!?!"

 

[buellet proof]

Truth to be told its really not cool to bust out anything whether is big or small cause that usaully means you are in a situation of kill or be killed. Hopefully I never have to go threw that and if I do I hope I'm in total control and prepared to deal with the situation that is put before me. Most important thing to me is the safety of my kids+wife, myself, and defenseless people. In that order.
Carry safe and responsible..

 

[Nuage420b]

I think we're on the same page bullet proof. [up]

 

[screamineagle]

Have you guys heard of the FN 5.7 Shoots a sub machine gun round through it that goes through body armor if you have a full jacket. Designed for that purpose. Lighter than a 9 and holds 20 rounds. Banned in a few states already. SWEET gun. 900 is a little out of my budget for now. Get yours before Obama takes your rights away. Anyone find it weird that as soon as Obama took office ammo supplies have deminished and have still not caught up. Thats how hilter took over Germany before WWI.

 

[screamineagle]

Here is a good t shirt site with Obama gun politics.
http://www.zazzle.co.uk/guns+obama+gifts

 

[Nuage420b]

. . .screaming. the 5.7 isn't a pistol that shoots a "submachine gun round" any round can be fired from a sub machine gun. sub machine guns are just a name some use for very short rifles like the MP5 or the UMP. which shhot 9mm and 45 respecitively. the 5.7 is pretty much the round we use in the army out of our M16 platform rifles. it's just a small high velocity round, anything can punch through "bullet proof vests" you can slick up or teflon tip any round and it will slide through armor. not to mention after the first round any follow up shots are gonna punch through. And for those who are gun rights nuts you probably know that D.C. just got their rights to own fire arms back about a year ago. I highly doubt Obama wants to start a fight with NRA right now to take them away. Ammo has been down for years dude? There has been a little bit of a conflict going on over in the middle east for the past 8-9 years which has been using up the ammo surplus. And the drop before he took office was extreme republicans fearing the new dem office. The stocks will rise again. The factories can only produce so fast and with such little material available. I don't support gun control by any means but I don't support Muckraking either.

 

[buellet proof]

FN 5.7 are bad a$$ I wanted one since the first time I seen one. Awesome pistol. But you can't get the round you are talking about around here.
Standard 20 round clip BAD...

 

[screamineagle]

The p90 was built around the 5.7 x 28mm. Thats what I meant. Also I doubt a 45 coated with teflon will pierce a vest at 300 meters and a helmet at 240 meters .
I have never had a problem getting ammo until January. I find it hard to believe that after that scare and 9 months later I cant go to any walmart and get 45 acp. Found some at a mom and pop place in town though. Real expensive. I find that odd. Look at the ammo shelf at walmart if you dont think there is something going on. Also other than California Illinois has the most restrictive gun laws in the country. Where was Obama make laws at?? Obama is pushing for ammo to be made with gun powder that goes bad after 5 years so people cant stock pile. If you think Obmama has no gun agendas you need to watch the news. Watch Glenn Beck. See the truth with out the smoke screen the media usually puts up for the anti Christ closet muslim jew hater.

 

[Thaloc]

Man I love those p99's! I run with a Springfield XD40 subcompact myself. Never pulled it out, and like others have said, I hope I never have to.

as for shiz to toss in traffic. PENNIES! They get peoples attention thats for sure, and if they snitch you out its much easier to play off as an accident rather than a cue ball(lol). Iv also heard marbles, or ball bearings are great. But again harder to explain if the po po come a knockin.

Washington is an Open Carry state also but we arent half as lax as Arizona or Texas. You cant openly carry in your vehicle and that includes motorcycles.... But toss it in your tank bag or backpack. Iv thought of crafting some kind of permanent holster somewhere withing quick reach but completely concealed. Im not sure what the laws would be on that...


Also +1 on CF or poly knuckles, and steel toed boots!

 

[Nuage420b]

I've used my Oakley gloves with the CF knuckles out here in Iraq and they do a great job of eliminating the language barrier :0 ) so i bought a pair of the SMX from alpinestars with the CF knuckles.

 

[LVsleeper]

I love my SPXs
As for Glenn Beck Finally, a guy who says what the people who aren't thinking are thinking! TOOL!!! Listen to his views when he was on Headline News vs. Fox News Network, total mouthpiece saying what he's told to and not what he thinks just as much as any other network/news anchor.

 

[LVsleeper]

And as for the "That's how Hilter took over Germany before WWI" comment...
Somebody needs to go back and read his history book again. Stop spewing your clearly IGNORANT racist verbal excrement around this board.