Flashing a Race Map to ALL Buells (08+ too)

[xoptimizedrsx]

the tunerpro beta is ready for those who are wanting to beta test this. this is a full out datalogging tool to get every bit of the ecm data from the ride. no logger is this complete on the market as of now.

ddfi 1&2 is verified its linking and working.

I have the started ddfi3 file ready to test. I just dont have a ddfi3 bike of my own.

arghhhh

mike

 

[Arkitek]

Sounds interesting. I'd be willing to give it a try with my 2010 XB. I'll admit however that stuff kinda scares me but i'd be willing to dabble with some help and guidance. Let me know!

 

[Superman217]

I have an 2009 XB12R and I was told that ECMSpy doesn't work on it and that the ECM will adjust itself. All I have to do is ride 15 miles at 3000 RPMS... Got this from the Harley Dealer when I got the bike.

KG

 

[Stevenc150]

It can't compensate fully for an intake AND exhaust mod. Nothing compares to a custom tune and stuff is in the works for the '09 bikes to make it DIY tuneable.

 

[Paniller]

I couldn't find a BUEOD0CB.xdf, so had to use ECMspy on my early 2008 XB12SS. I compared my 2008 tables from a 2007 race ECM. The row/columns didn't line up, so I just hand-filled what was missing.

All the changes weren't extreme, and I feel the fueling/timing values should work from 07 to 08. I'm only concerned with what appears to be commanded A/F ratio. Why is that a uniform 14.7 across the board on the 08 ECM? Am I missing something, or did they get lazy at the Buell factory?

 

[buellbum]

Paniller; I was told by someone that we have a short band o2 sensor and that is the range it falls in14.7-14.2 or something like that. Any way I have the same ECM and have not been able to find a map for that particular firmware so i have hooked up with ecmspy and looked over the graphs and such but i am nervous about changing something with out something to go by.where did you get the 07 race map to compare with would you consider sharing the map that you have come up with?

 

[theoctopus]

I'm back in Los Angeles for those who wanted to get together for a tuning session. I'm crashing at the parental's pad for a week or two till we find a place to live with a big enough garage out toward Pomona. Anyone who's in the LA area who's interested in doing a bit of work on datalogging/tuning should PM me.

 

[Paniller]

Paniller; I was told by someone that we have a short band o2 sensor and that is the range it falls in14.7-14.2 or something like that. Any way I have the same ECM and have not been able to find a map for that particular firmware so i have hooked up with ecmspy and looked over the graphs and such but i am nervous about changing something with out something to go by.where did you get the 07 race map to compare with would you consider sharing the map that you have come up with?

Sorry for the late reply, I didn't notice this post.

I had emailed my race file that I created, and it looks like it was added to our compilation (https://sites.google.com/site/ecmspy/). You can download it there, let me know if you need help.

I just lined up whatever columns from the earlier race ECM that I could with my larger 08 tables. Then, I filled in missing columns/rows by averaging the surrounding cells. I did this for timing, fueling, and commanded A/F ratios. I'm not sure if ECMSpy burnt in the A/F ratio tables though, I didn't see an explicit option for it. I also smoothed out and downplayed any extreme changes from stock. So, the tables are like 90% race.

I'm not sure if the A/F tables took, but I'm pretty sure the fueling and timing tables wrote correctly through ECMSpy. It feels much stronger and smoother, especially down low. It could be placebo effect, but I doubt it, especially considering reading the table back shows the new values. It runs amazing on my 08 with BUEOD, with K&N and breather. I'll update once my new Hawk muffler arrives. It may not be perfect, but it's a great canned tune start.

Try that table from the link, using ecmspy for the BUEOD. Read your eeprom, save the map. Read the race/custom I made, save the map. Compare the two maps and merge(I recommend a program called beyondcompare, it's free). Then load your eeprom, load that map, and burn.

 

[hiphopper]

Hello opti! I´ve an 2010 xb12 and can connect it to an computer for you to remote control, I assist you for any physical setup... Tony

 

[stellio78]

Does anyone know if this software can read the map off an EBR ECM?

 

[Paniller]

Any word on an .xdf file for BUEOD ECMs? It's used in early 08's, and I don't see a definition that works with it.

(edit: nvm. It was either added and the website updated, or I found another website that seems to have it. score. Thanks guys. I heart you)

 

[Fock347]

how do you fetch the fuel tables on tunerpro. i cant figure it out. and when i data log and play it back only a couple of the values are inputed.

 

[jakke]

Paniller, how is the BOEOD .xdf working in Tunerpro? Any better overall than MLW + ECMSpy?
Thanks for the maps upload, I'll compare those to mine and see where I'm going.

 

[buelltech]

Ok guys sorry I'm very new to this and very slow with computers. Anyone one have dumb down instructions all I want to do is download the race map onto the ecm in place of the stock map. Thats it! no crazy tuning just want my stock ecm to be a race ecm as purchased from Buell. Also does anyone have the maps for a 2007 xb9? Also can I do this with just the ecmspy program? That was my understanding when I got the program but it seems I need more programs then just the one.

 

[Blacky1002]

BIIIIIG Problem.

Tried to flash a 2008 XB9 with ECMSpy.Pulled the maps. changed them to a 2007 race map (with all the calculations...) and oushed them back in with ECMSpy.

Now, my TPS is permanantly at 100% and the Air temp is 200 degrees too high. The Throttle sensor and Tempsensor show faults to ground and a TPS reset doesnt do anything. The Voltage of the TPS is fine and changes when i move the thottle.

Did it overwrite some other areas in the ECM which are responsible for those things?

Motor starts but pumps a ton of fuel in the exaust do to jumping into the 100% TPS map.

I tried to push my original fetched data back into the ECM via ECMread but program says, data doesnt match ECM.

Does anybody have an idea how to fix this?

Thanks
Dominik

Not sure if this is the right thread to post the issue in. Just tell me if not and I move it.

 

[uly luigi]

that sux

 

[uly luigi]

from the abundance of more knowledgable replies, I would say you are now the proud owner of an expensive "brick"

 

[theoctopus]

I suggested he try to reflash just the map sections with stock data, but haven't heard back from him. I wonder if he figured it out.

 

[sak1782]

I have a strange issue.

I can fetch maps and eeproms, but when I go to load a new eeprom, regardless of what it is, i just get a single row, with no values in any of the boxes. Do i have to change the txt doc to some other format? I can save the eeproms, read the txt doc, but when I go to reload even the stock map, i get no values.

I have not burned any changes into the stock map except the exhaust valve and white wire delete.

 

[FireboltRider31]

PLEASE HELP ME kindergarten style im talking 5 year old doesnt know how to read instructions. well thats how im feeling. ecmspy for dummies 101. lesson #1 turning on your computer. lol. any ways here is my issue.

load it all up and i get this wonderful informative message that says...
the program can't start because mono.dll is missing from your computer. try reinstalling the program to fix this problem.

now this happens when i attempt to start up ecmread for mono. and yes i have read everypage i could find and the only help i could find was someone else getting same message and reinstalling and i attempted that 3 times. so now i am giving up the solo attempt and if anyone is willing to walk me thru this kindergartin style let me know otherwise i guess i'll just keep giving my money to harley stealerships. cuz im soo confused.