Harley leaving Milwaukee!!!

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Harley has been saying this for years. Just like they say they are gonna go to liquid cooled baggers. A lot of BS if you ask me. If Harley moves out of country, then the brand will fail because being American is pretty much what Harley is about.
 
From what I read , they are talking of looking for a different state . I didn't read of them moving anywhere else .
 
good for harley,they need to get away from the unions.
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Didn't we go through this same exact thing last time this article came out? Somehow people think that a company who's entire image and productivity is surrounded by the idea of america and american workers, is willing to move an entire factory just so they can pay the american workers people who make their products less, still has anything to do with the image that company is trying to sell?? It's fine if HD wants to ship their work somewhere else, as long as they ditch all the flags and american glory theme's from their bike and start putting stickers on them that say "this is the same bike you can get from anyone else, which you can see now that we don't have an image to sell you anymore".

I walked into the lunch room at work one day and heard some guy complaining about what was wrong with america, and he said "things are never going to get better until I can stand in line at walmart, look down at the shirt I'm buying and see a tag that says it's made in the USA". My mouth just about hit the floor. People have no concept of how their own actions cause the problems/situations they like to complain about.
 
[up] you got it.and if by some chance it said made in america and cost a couple bucks more he would bitch about the price.i stay out of walmarts id rather pay more at a locally owned place.
 
what bikes are made in Milwaukee? I thought the only two assembly plants were Kansas city and York.
 
interesting!!!!! [confused] They may be looking for a low or no tax state.Guess they ain't coming to Hawaii.......
 
a few years ago i tried to just buy american for a week.its impossible.even **** that says made in usa only has to be assembeled here to have that tag now. it can have up to 75 percent foreign parts in it.
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I have the same problem when I do that. I just buy as much american as I can. Until the American consumer DEMANDS US made products, they will be proping up the Chinese economy.[mad]
 
Just like they say they are gonna go to liquid cooled baggers
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This will happen when more states require smog for bikes in the future. Same thing Porsche did with the 911. Many buyers balked at it in the beginning but now have accepted the added performance and much lower emissions.
 
Unions are out of date, they lower efficiency and raise overhead and the price of the final product. Not saying that they should die in a hole, but they need to rethink the meaning of their existence.

Benefits such as paid sick days and w/e other **** are luxuries the company should have the OPTION of giving. They should be an incentive to lure the best employees in the industry to work for you. Not a "you better give us these things or we'll go on strike" type stuff.

Businesses are in business to make money. I think Harley moving overseas would kill the company, immediately. Their whole marketing strategy rests on the fact that it's an American made bike. Lose that and they are SOL.

Also, don't believe businesses benefit from the no income tax laws in states like individuals do. If they did though, Florida would be the place to go.
 
Yea only buisnes should have legal protection,like a contract ,to protect there enterests,after all only the rich should have any leverage in this day and age. The only way unions could become out dated is if humans lost there greed,and obviously our economy proves that hasnt happened.To many opinions are based on dinner table hysteria and not fact.
 
Yea only buisnes should have legal protection,like a contract ,to protect there enterests,after all only the rich should have any leverage in this day and age. The only way unions could become out dated is if humans lost there greed,and obviously our economy proves that hasnt happened.To many opinions are based on dinner table hysteria and not fact.
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A business that doesn't treat it's employees fairly won't have employees to work for them. Greed is what drives everyone, it's drives our economy, everyone works for more money to have nicer things. That's greed. It's a drive for more of anything, not just money.

I never said unions shouldn't be around. They do protect the workers and keep employers from being stupid, but they shouldn't demand benefits like it's illegal to not give them out.
 
the word greed means ,EXCESS desire for wealth or goods.Its not exactly healthy or what should be mistaken for mans basic drive to better himself,unfortunately,as the regulation and safeguards in the constitution get torn away ,the ultimate result is slavery.
 
I hear you guys and I agree. If we have here a Brazilian made bike I'd buy no other. But hey, it's countless the number of people in this very forum who buy from eBay. There's even an guy from north America who moved to china to do business and many here buy from him. Firedragons I think is the name on ebay. Maybe he isn't fully American, but anyways...
the plant of General Motors here in Brazil is the biggest and the most profitable GM plant of the world, our cars have countless numbers of Chinese parts.
If you bought you girl a diamond ring you bought African.
As I said I understand and agree, but I don't think it is something that will change. As you said people buy at walmart and I only see it growing each year. Countries aren't inhabited only by pure races, think never were. It's an illusion to think that companies would have a 100% home production. I don't agree with what happens in China, but I won't agree that it's possible to have something made 100%. NO country has more than 40% own production of goods and services and some people manage to live just as happy... I wonder.

Now coming back to what the topic really talks about. I didn't read where production would be in China. anyway, Harley sucks, it's overweighted, overpriced and soon will be over ****. Love my american Buell!
 
The pay ratio between factory worker and CEO has gotten out of hand. This is a major problem with American corporations. Execs think they deserve 6 or 7 figure salaries, and workers think they should be making 75-100k a a year.
 

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