HID Time Delay Mod

[strmvt]

I have dual ballasts as well. Well.... one atm b/c one ballast went out <have to repeatedly remove/replace the lights fuse> so switched ballasts have a 2yr warranty on the HID's just need to send it in.

 

[Jabaniz]

my wolsten tech relay worked fantastic, with my 55watt low beam on stock wiring harness, i am a little leery of doing the dual mod with 2 -55watts on factory harness, but i really dont think there will be a problem

 

[BuellDude]

I think that you would be alright it may work. But, if not it would not be difficult to add a separate fused circuit.

 

[liqrnpoker]

BuellDude, I still haven't done it yet, however, why is the gray wire now used instead of the yellow. I only want to run one ballast on the relay. I do have the dual headlight mod also, but I only want to use one ballast for the relay.

 

[BuellDude]

Haha sorry this is kinda confusing I was representing that you use the parking light power which is represented by the gray to power the relay, as the +12volt trigger wire to the relay, and also as the power for the low beam hid ballast. The reason for doing this is that the parking light wire is always energized when the key is in the on position. This wY when you turn the key on the relay will energize and turn on the low beam after the countdown. The reason that you need to use the parking light wire is so when you turn on your high beam, your low beam will remain on. I hope this helps please ask if you still can't figure it out or feel free to call I pmd my number.

 

[BuellDude]

Oh and to answer your question the relay is only powering one ballast in the picture. Also a tip so that everything goes flawlessly is put the harness wires back to how they were from the factory then follow my diagram exactly and it should all work.

 

[RacerAV]

buelldude, youre awesome, thanks for this! i ordered the wolsten tech relay as well, see it in a few days i hope, then ill install the HIDs. I pretty much am going for the same set up you have it seems, 35w 6k, dual HID, I want both on the delay though. Wtech said thats not a problem, but is the wiring the same? does it matter?

as you have it now, you start the bike, HIDs come on after delay, then you turn on high beam, and both stay on. right? is there then really a need for me to use the delay for both lights? if i used if for both lights it would be good just in case i left the highs on, and shut off the bike, started it later forgetting high is on and bam, problem 1 all over. but if you DO put run the relay for both, would there be a delay after your bikes started, and you switch it to high to have both on, would it delay just the high a bit longer?
sorry so long... haha, just realized that...

 

[BuellDude]

Hey no problem, I don't mind answering questions at all. I haven't really had the problem of leaving the high beams on yet i've just made it part of my routine to shut it off. If you would like to do the high beam on time delay then you will need a second relay and you will still need to use the high beam switch it can be done though. You would just wire the high beam circuit identical to the low beam. if you have any questions or need some help pm me and I will send you my phone number and I can explain it to you over the phone.

 

[RacerAV]

Dude. I wired mine exactly like you've got it up there, the updated one, and when my key turns on the high beam comes on. When I switch to high beams the low comes on also then shuts right off. WTF?! I'm going nuts. The wolstentech relay is on "on" and the rest is wired just like your pic. Not working.

 

[RacerAV]

wow, rewired it just as the wt website says to, works as it should, only i have no ability to switch to low or high. so i realized that i could have both on, and my own "timer" by just wiring the ballasts to the white (high beam) wire and black (ground) bam, they dont come on with the switch on low, and both come on with the switch on high, lovely. i never "flash" people, lol... pun intended... so ill just leave it. think the wires and fuses will hold up? running everything off the stock wires, thats it. should i carry a fire extinguisher? :/

i did the "dual on" mod, switching the yellow and orange wires in the male end of the HL harness... could this be a reason? your diagram says dual on mod, but doesnt show it, your wires go in and out the same pattern: B O W Y

I undid the dual mod as now i have both running off the white, high, and thats that.

i spent hours and hours on this, way bummed... i just dont get why one example works and for me it wont...

are buells negative switching or postive switching systems? at least the headlights... the wt relay can be either but you have to have it set for the correct one

my ideal end result would be turn on key, whatever light I have selected, Low or high, it comes on after a 15 second delay. also, low is low and high is low/high simultaneously. is this even possible?

argh... sorry for the crazyness... its damn 430am, ive got a final at 10am, im filthy and exhausted.... but frustrated more than anything...

Adamo

 

[RacerAV]

oh yeah, and the bike vis stuff i ordered, blah... the flexible strips are hardly that, more like thick hoses... no good... maybe bright but useless... also the light pods, they are in a cheap casing that is huge and silver and chrome plastic.... i was really excited for the stuff to arrive and bamm... sucks... i found some thin super bright led strips at kragen for 20bucks... gonna put them on my hand guards from the side wrapped all the way around to the front corner... i wanna be as visible as possible so i dont get hit again!

 

[BuellDude]

hey racerav the Buells are negative switching. Return your harness to stock before doing this! It will eliminate a lot of confusion. Also, your stock wires will hold up I have been running mine for like 3 months now. If you can't figure it out pm me your phone number and name and I will give you a call and explain it later tonight.

 

[RacerAV]

also on my bike im pretty sure the factory set up was white high, yellow low, orange park, black ground... is this right? thats how that post said it as well, so i figured its fine, but theres a difference with your diagram and how mine is set up originally, as well as the other post on how to do the dual on mod...

 

[BuellDude]

HEY i looked and you are absolutely right my drawing was off I got confused haha so here is a new one. White is Represented by Grey in the picture which is HIGH BEAM, Yellow is LOW BEAM and is no longer used, Black is GROUND. And Orange/White is the park which is now the LOW BEAM and Relay power/trigger. Here is a new pic sorry for the confusion hope this clears it up for people.

 

[RacerAV]

buelldude
so that picture there is after you did the dual on mod, meaning you swapped the wires in the male plug of the harness... which wires did you swap? just to make sure... ill be doing this tomorrow morning and have limited time to do it... cant waste any time guessing or doing trial and error installs...
Adamo

 

[BuellDude]

Put the harness any way that you would like to in the drawing the harness is off but as long as you come int the harness and out of it with the same color you will be okay. This all should work if you follow the diagram. I suggest doing the high beam side first and that way there's no confusion. next do the relay and low beams. If something doesn't work try flipping that switch on the back of the relay it is NEGATIVE SWITCHING. Also i would set your delay to 40-45 seconds if I were you.

 

[liqrnpoker]

Hey buelldude, it still didn't work for me. I've used 2 different types of relays. My wiring was so messed up from the previous owner, but I fixed that. However, is the factthat I am using digital slim ballasts a factor? They have an extra relay within the line that comes from the ballast. I haven't tried it on regular ballasts yet. Got too frustrated.

 

[BuellDude]

No, Using digital slim ballasts shouldn't be a factor at all that's what I am using. I really don't know what it could be without being there to see it. Maybe a stereo shop would look at it and double check really quick if you can't figure out whats up with it?

 

[jaywalker]

I just burnt one of these relays up. Didn't use the original low beam wire as the input, and hooked up a direct wire to battery with inline fuse for the 12V hookup. Will try piggybacking off the original wire for both the input & 12v pins. Just using the relay for the low beam on my firebolt

 

[BuellDude]

Yeah I would just slice both of the original wire no point to add the extra wire you shouldn't ever pop a fuse if you hook it up like the drawing. Mine is still working 3 months strong so far.