haha you don't go to Zylstra, do you? The guys i bought my bike from there LOVE buells, and two of the staff members still have buells. The said if they had to choose between their Vrods and Buells, they would probably choose the VROD (straight line performance) but would have a hard time parting with the buells, because it's the closest to a harley that people under 40 will ever enjoy.
If Harley made Buells again.....
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haha you don't go to Zylstra, do you? The guys i bought my bike from there LOVE buells, and two of the staff members still have buells. The said if they had to choose between their Vrods and Buells, they would probably choose the VROD (straight line performance) but would have a hard time parting with the buells, because it's the closest to a harley that people under 40 will ever enjoy.
DrogeN Omen
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im an EBR convert... cant wait for the EBR street models ot be released.
HD is ok but way to expensive for what they are.
HD is ok but way to expensive for what they are.
BuellyBagger
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Im not aa huge harley hater. I am still angered at how bad their fire sale hurt the value of our bikes, but my first bike was a harley and I still enjoy riding them on occasion. Harleys are what they are, cliches for the most part of course but a bike just the same. I'm very worried about the pairing of EBR with HERO. I'm afraid it will result in less than premium motorcycles @ a premium price.
Would I buy a new HD sportbike, maybe if the price was right and the engineering appeared descent. But id prolly lean towards bmw first.
Would I buy a new HD sportbike, maybe if the price was right and the engineering appeared descent. But id prolly lean towards bmw first.
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I understand the whole "Erik sold his soul to the devil in 2003", but it wasn't a complete disaster until the current CEO. Buell won the championship, and was set to have a new building built. Enter the new sportbike hating CEO, and no more Buell. Yeah, there were plenty of good ideas that HD shut down, but Erik finally got his race winning liquid cooled Rotax, and ultimately, Wandell killed Buell.
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Let's just get to the meat of the original question asked and rephrase it more clearly...
Q: "If Harley Davidson were to build a motorcycle again called a Buell but removed the soul, good looks, innovation & racetrack-based performance and instead added incredibly dumbed-down design, poor handling and crappy/incompetent service knowing they'll make millions and millions of dollars merchandising toothbrushes, steel-toed boots, do-rags, stadium seat-cushions, and every other item known to man as long as it said "Buell" on it, would you buy one?"
A: Uh, no. No I wouldn't.
And since I keep seeing $45k price tags on motorcycles from EBR I'm afraid they're going to stay out of my price range for a while.
I agree with Hooker, if I couldn't have a Buell I'd probably head in the direction of the KTM Superduke. THAT is an original & badass bike.
Q: "If Harley Davidson were to build a motorcycle again called a Buell but removed the soul, good looks, innovation & racetrack-based performance and instead added incredibly dumbed-down design, poor handling and crappy/incompetent service knowing they'll make millions and millions of dollars merchandising toothbrushes, steel-toed boots, do-rags, stadium seat-cushions, and every other item known to man as long as it said "Buell" on it, would you buy one?"
A: Uh, no. No I wouldn't.
And since I keep seeing $45k price tags on motorcycles from EBR I'm afraid they're going to stay out of my price range for a while.
I agree with Hooker, if I couldn't have a Buell I'd probably head in the direction of the KTM Superduke. THAT is an original & badass bike.
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Are you rephrasing my original question? because that wasnt it. And Harley Davidson announces they are going to make the XB again exactly how it was before but will have nothing to do with Erik Buell what so ever
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Unless I'm missing something, the only one from the Duke series available in the US is the 690... wish the full Duke lineup was available here in the states.
As for the topic at hand... I think I might have a hard time buying a Buell-like bike from HD. I just don't think it would have the same attitude, character and "soul" as Erik's bikes. I'd probably keep finding used Buell's or go to a Street Triple.
I'm 59 yrs old, I ride an 06 Electra Glide classic. My favorite toy (don't mean to denegrate a great machine) is an 05 Lightning. I truly love both these bikes. I am a HD aficionado. My ride and enjoyment of the ride is the most important part of my sport. Check out the BMW 1600 gtl, sweet. What I'm saying is I love my Harleys, yea both, but I wouldn't let love get in the way of good judgement. Would I buy Buell sans Erik, depends on the bike.
Well, we are very pro american in my house (though i drive an Audi, i only bought it because i wanted a car that did well in the snow, that i could afford, and i'd rather support the germans than the japanese), and my dad rides a 99 super glyde and i ride my '03 lightning. My dad LOVES my bike and thinks its really awesome how something could be that quick and still get over 50mpg, but he's a pretty big guy (6'4 about 350lbs next to my 5'10 and 170) so he can't really get comfortable on a buell. He acknowledges all the engineering that Erik put into his bikes though, and really wishes there was something he could ride that had a little bit of buell at heart. He was even talking about buying a buell engine to swap into his bike at some time here, but his health is becoming worse and worse. The thing i always point out about Buells though is that they are the most american bike you can buy. Most HD bikes nowadays are made in mexico, where buells (even the rotax engines) were made right in wisconsin. I don't really have a problem with buying products from mexico, and i'd rather support them than the japanese, but in all honesty, i have my eyes set on several other bikes at the moment, and unless it came to me for real cheap, i don't think id ever buy ANY harley. It's not for the same reasons as probably everyone else here, but i just don't have an intrest.
Now, if harley used all the machines and materials that buell used, but just stuck there name on it, i might buy one, but it would only be if i knew they would keep the bike going for a while so i'd have replacement parts availability. They would have to price it pretty low though, because if i had to spend a few more clams to get a bike with Buell's name on it, i certainly would.
Now, if harley used all the machines and materials that buell used, but just stuck there name on it, i might buy one, but it would only be if i knew they would keep the bike going for a while so i'd have replacement parts availability. They would have to price it pretty low though, because if i had to spend a few more clams to get a bike with Buell's name on it, i certainly would.
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I know this is an older post nowadays... however, after reading through all the comments, i wanted to chime in with my 2 cents.
IMO opinion people are too concerned about a name or who built what...like the company or the engineer (EB) actually has any loyalties to us or anyone else. No one takes the time to put themselves in the shoes of those two entities. I actually hope HD eventually brings the XB's back with all their glory. It's mind boggling to me to sit here and see people have zero faith in any of the engineers that HD has or will have in the future. I see a lot of untapped potential left in the current dyfunct XBs and I believe if the right person or group came along they could be taken to a whole new level.
As for supporting HD, I don't get wrapped around the axle on spending my money at places.. If you don't like it, don't buy it..simple as that. Makes me wonder if folks are just too emotional.
Just my 2 cents...LoL I'll get off my little sopa box now.
IMO opinion people are too concerned about a name or who built what...like the company or the engineer (EB) actually has any loyalties to us or anyone else. No one takes the time to put themselves in the shoes of those two entities. I actually hope HD eventually brings the XB's back with all their glory. It's mind boggling to me to sit here and see people have zero faith in any of the engineers that HD has or will have in the future. I see a lot of untapped potential left in the current dyfunct XBs and I believe if the right person or group came along they could be taken to a whole new level.
As for supporting HD, I don't get wrapped around the axle on spending my money at places.. If you don't like it, don't buy it..simple as that. Makes me wonder if folks are just too emotional.
Just my 2 cents...LoL I'll get off my little sopa box now.
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Totally agree! There's way too many great bikes out there to stick with only one model more than once!
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simply put.....if it has 2 wheels...a motor....and starts and runs....i love it.
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