Range Rover Runs Over Bikers

[Tbone]

I remember a town in Illinois called Downers Grove, that had a lot of guns and they outlawed them in the town and as a resident I think you had to turn them in somewhere or just get rid of them, vague memory. Being within striking distance of Chicago the crime rate shot up. Of the residents who stayed, as some left that city, trained guard dogs became a commodity there as well as refined dog training techniques. This city shot up as one of the safest and preferred places to live. I just remember going there as a kid and seeing a lot of German Shephards, Dobermans, St Barnards, etc.... Growing up in Chicago my family had a single trained German Shephard from DG & he did some amazing stuff. He broke off a heavy chain and ran over a mile to Kennedy high school to protect my twin cousins when they were being jumped by a gang. This dog kicked A55!!! 125 lb pound can of whoop a55.

 

[djs2k2]

Sorry, am I going to trust my life with a dog vs an attacker or a gun? Gun wins every time.[smirk]

 

[rah7777777]

I'd like both... Gun and big dog. Haha!

You don't see the K9 cops leaving their guns at home do you.

 

[djs2k2]

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[BuddhaBuell]

I'd like both... Gun and big dog.

We live very far away from any urban centre,
we have 6 dogs...
..they are all armed

 

[wolfo68]

We have actually had some douche up here that has been driving around in his truck pulling his gun on bikers. I don't think anything has ever come of it other than the guy pulling the gun to scare people, but it's on riders that are being responsible and some of us actually carry. I know he's had one mirror knocked off because someone saw what was going on and did the necessary to divert his attention from other riders.

Shitty situations are everywhere this summer it seems.

 

[wolfo68]

How many times have you heard of a civilian stopping a guy with a rifle or an unholstered pistol?

It happens, it just doesn't get reported.

 

[Tbone]

It would be interesting to see some stats on that, I really do not have a preference or knowledge just some experience with a K9. For close quarter protection I think a well trained canine might be up there, wish I had the data so I could respond better.

 

[wolfo68]

I'd be okay with a canine if I wasn't allergic, but it would keep me out of some pain from being shot again.

 

[snrusnak]

Colorado James Holmes movie theater massacre.
Columbine.
Virginia Tech.
Waco Texas. And FREQUENT 4-5 kill shooting sprees, like just recently in the news.
Hennard, George Pierre, Texas, 23 kills.
Unruh, Howard Barton, NJ 13 kills
Pough, James Edward, Florida 11kills
McLendon, Michael Kenneth 10 kills Alabama

The list goes on and on and on to include KS, WY, NE, UT, AK, MS, MO, GA, etc. etc. etc.

grego is either a politician or one of the bikers in the video.

 

[d_adams]

More guns = less violence? Hm not sure I agree with that.

Colorado James Holmes movie theater massacre.
Columbine.
Virginia Tech.

Ok, I will stop here, it's pointless to go any further along this path. Cite shootings. IN NO GUN ZONES. Yeah, how did that work out for them? Just ONE person there with a CCW could have put a stop to every one that you listed. JUST ONE. That's all it takes is one armed citizen. Cops weren't around, it was a posted gun free zone. You think that criminals give a shit about laws if they're getting ready to commit a crime? Didn't think so. You need to get a grip on reality pretty soon, maybe wake up from your dream world.

I live in a relatively low crime rate area, it has a fairly high percentage of police roaming about, but even with a 3-4 minute response time, it's too damn late for them to do anything more than fill out a report if there's someone out to cause mischief. Arm yourself and be prepared to defend yourself and loved ones.

 

[anrkizm95]

I personally LOVE the fact that NY has the strictest gun laws in the country. I feel MUCH safer.

roflmmfao says the guy living in one of the cities with the toughest gun laws and highest crime.

 

[djs2k2]

Sorry grego you dont help your case these were all places that dont allow guns, and you fell safer in new york where they have the strictest gun laws? Wait a sec isnt this where the incident happened? You confused me Grego.

 

[anrkizm95]

NYC is actually 46 on the list of cities with the highest crime rate in 2011.

These nine cities account for 5.9% of the U.S. population and 20.7% of all the murders in the country.

City

Murders

Population

Per 100,000



Chicago

506

2,700,000


18.7



NYC

414

8,100,000

5.1



Detroit

411

707,000

58.1



Phila

331

1,540,000

21.5



St. Louis

113

318,000

35.5



Cleveland

97

394,000

24.6



New Orleans

193

361,000

53.5



Wash DC

88

618,000

14.2



Los Angeles

294

3,800,000

7.7

 

[djs2k2]

Next time you post about massacre's post somewhere that allows guns, and guns were present, and dont question the fact that some bases have been attacked because military personnel are not allowed to carry firearms on base.

 

[djs2k2]

My statement stand put guns in the hands of the good citizens of NYC and it would be an even lower number might go from 414 to a few accidental deaths, or how about this only deaths of bad people.

 

[anrkizm95]

WTF is your point?

Violent crime rate in 2011


New York:


336.8


U.S. Average:


213.6


Violent crime rate in 2010


New York:


315.1


U.S. Average:


223.2


Violent crime rate in 2009


New York:


297.2


U.S. Average:


238.0


Violent crime rate in 2008


New York:


313.2


U.S. Average:


252.4


Violent crime rate in 2007


New York:


330.0


U.S. Average:


259.7


Violent crime rate in 2006


New York:


345.7


U.S. Average:


264.1


Violent crime rate in 2005


New York:


364.9


U.S. Average:


258.9


Violent crime rate in 2004


New York:


373.0


U.S. Average:


256.0


Violent crime rate in 2003


New York:


398.6


U.S. Average:


262.6


Violent crime rate in 2002


New York:


427.5


U.S. Average:


272.2


Violent crime rate in 2000


New York:


526.4


U.S. Average:


277.6


Violent crime rate in 1999


New York:


571.8


U.S. Average:


286.4


Read more: http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-New-York-New-York.html#ixzz2gbSSeSvf

 

[03Firebolt9R]

 

[djs2k2]

Yeah NYC avg higher than national avg, and grego I respect your not wanting to have a gun but your only speaking for yourself. Ask yourself this if you lived in a good neighborhood miles from town and someone broke into your home with intent to hurt your family would you rather have a gun or a phone to call the police thats only minutes away when seconds count?

 

[djs2k2]

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