Spinning the tire

[thefastfox]

I have a 09 xb12r firebolt. Running metezler m5 tires front and back. My bike seldom wheelies. She just blows the back tire off even if you try to clutch it up and while sitting as far back as you can. Dunno if it's the "good" Missouri roads or what. It comes up sometimes but mainly likes to float the front end under hard throttle or trying to wheelie. Running 36psi on rear. Any thoughts?

 

[Firebolt80]

Check suspension setup

 

[user_deleted]

She just blows the back tire off even if you try to clutch it up and while sitting as far back as you can.

thanks for posting. have been experiencing precisely the same problem with my Vino 125 and seeking solutions.

 

[thefastfox]

Any charts for Buell suspension set ups out there for weight size of rider?

 

[Firebolt80]

http://steveturnbull.co.uk/buell/thexbpages/index.htm

 

[oh9bolt]

 

[Honda_Sol]

Set the suspension and lower the tire pressure some. Lower tire pressure means more tire on pavement which results in more traction.

 

[sparky300]

Wtf...36 psi is way too focking high for the rear. Drop it to 26 and play with it from there. Makes me wonder what you're running in the front

 

[EricZ]

Sparky300, 36 psi is, by no means, way too fucking high for the rear. It is, in fact, the factory recommended pressure AND a very reasonable tire pressure.

 

[Doc13]

#stuntLife

 

[sprk_sprd]

You should get a Hayabusa and slap a turbo on it. No need to thank me. I'm just glad I could help.

 

[snrusnak]

like said above the manual says 36psi front and back. I like to drop that a couple psi if I know I'm going to be cornering aggressively. Makes me feel like the tires will stick a little better. Will they? I'm honestly not sure, but seems like lower pressure equals more rubber on the pavement lol.

I'd rather my tires wear out a little faster and not wreck than get an extra 500 miles out of them but wreck.

 

[Honda_Sol]

If you plan on stunting or doing wheelies let some air out. Find the sweet spot on the tire pressure and go from there. If it has to be really low to not spin then dont do it. A little low wont hurt it. But I can run mine at 36 and still wheelie

 

[Theycallmecrash]

I simply just dont believe the tire isnt getting traction.... Unless youre hunched over the front in a sad attempt to keep it down.

 

[go cytocis]

I simply just dont believe the tire isnt getting traction

Yea, the same thought occurred to me. Are you out on greasy pavement with cold tires? Are you sure your clutch isn't slipping? Are you giving a little tug on the bars?

 

[WIGGLE2]

A Vino 125?! Theres no way Lunatic....my Honda Grom...MAYBE...but NOT your Vino! Lol!!

 

[1badtitan90]

just my experience with the metzler m5.... pure shit.. I would rather ride on the rim than another set of those tires.. the front wore out in no time and the rear never was good for traction.. 1 time I did a small burnout to get it warm at the track and it kinda hooked still spun in higher rpms.. I had the rear start to slide out on me on some very aggressive turns and I went straight from there to the bike shop and had them replaced.. they had roughly 2000k miles on them and the front was shot.. the tire psi was set accordingly and all was good.. I put Dunlop roadsmarts on it.. just my .02 cents

 

[thefastfox]

Well I think the suspension is set just right for me because I've never had any issues in the twisties with shake or slide and don't want to mess with the suspension just to be like every kid on the road these days thinking they're a stunt rider. I did get it to clutch up a few times today. Probably just bad roads. I run 36 cold front and rear because any thing over or below I can tell a difference while cornering hard. By no means am I wanting to stunt or anything just always heard they wheelie so easy. Guess it's better to be planted while under full throttle anyways. I don't think my clutch is slipping, only got about 3k out of my last tire from spinning it so much on hard throttle take offs. the metz handle really well so far. Haven't pushed it very hard due to lower asphalt temps. I thought maybe it was just running bad but I rode my brother in laws xb9sc he just bought today and there is a big difference in my opinion. I'll wait until the asphalt gets hotter before I go adjusting anything. Thanks for the chart info.

 

[WIGGLE2]

just my experience with the metzler m5.... pure shit..

Not the first time I've heard this. No experience with them personally, but more than once I've heard this from the guys I ride with. I've NEVER heard of an XB Buell just smoking the tire on an 'aggressive' start. My Dunlop Q2's would 'break traction' once they had some miles and were just about shot, but not just blow them off. I could feel it 'hop' once in a while when I pulled 2nd gear fast. IF they're as bad as you say, I'd be SUPER careful in the twisties for sure....sounds like a recipe for getting yourself hurt.

 

[snrusnak]

If it makes you feel any better my xb9r doesn't wheelie. Not that I've ever purposely attempted to do a wheelie. Usually when I accelerate hard I lean forward a lot and I'm about 225lb so that's a lot of weight. The bike will glide the front tire on acceleration especially when shifting fast. I've never once tried to "clutch up" (which I assume means dump the clutch). I love my bike too much lol.

Also my bike has never really spun the tire in a straight line unless it's wet or gravely, etc. Again, I've never dumped the clutch.