Uly hiccup
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Hey Chop, I mean you no ill will at all--just trying for some perspective. No way would I complain about you. Of course I can find a replacement, just wanted the info on the Mustang cross over pump and what had to be modified to make it work---that is the purpose of this forum isn't it.
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nicholas900
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Try this:
https://www.buellxb.com/forum/showthread.php?38173-DIY-Fuel-pump-fix-Cheaper-than-replacement-from-HD
The first thing I would do personally is rig up a fuel pressure gauge and ride it until it quits. https://www.buellxb.com/forum/showthread.php?33437-Testing-fuel-pressure-on-our-buells Then you'll have something concrete. Otherwise it's just a guessing game.
https://www.buellxb.com/forum/showthread.php?38173-DIY-Fuel-pump-fix-Cheaper-than-replacement-from-HD
The first thing I would do personally is rig up a fuel pressure gauge and ride it until it quits. https://www.buellxb.com/forum/showthread.php?33437-Testing-fuel-pressure-on-our-buells Then you'll have something concrete. Otherwise it's just a guessing game.
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Nicholas900,
Hey that is terrific help. I had found part of that write up(10%) but not the whole thing. I also found a YouTube for the whole job but doesn't cover the details in your link. Thanks so much.
Now to get all the bits organized and do the work.
Turns out I have 22,000+ miles on the 09 Uly--must be a lot of junk in there by now. Maybe after this job I will have the nerve to fix the sender on my EBR which has never worked since day 1. It would be great to have an actual working low fuel light instead of having to depend on my odometer--It is going to catch me out sometime.
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Hey that is terrific help. I had found part of that write up(10%) but not the whole thing. I also found a YouTube for the whole job but doesn't cover the details in your link. Thanks so much.
Now to get all the bits organized and do the work.
Turns out I have 22,000+ miles on the 09 Uly--must be a lot of junk in there by now. Maybe after this job I will have the nerve to fix the sender on my EBR which has never worked since day 1. It would be great to have an actual working low fuel light instead of having to depend on my odometer--It is going to catch me out sometime.
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If you want to check your fuel pressure, here's a pre-made splitter.
https://st-paul-harley-davidson-bue...e-gauge-adapter-2003-2010-xb-1125-models-l19d
Doesn't come with a pressure gauge, so hit this link next. https://www.google.com/search?q=fue...n4vdAhVkmuAKHeT0ASAQ_AUICigB&biw=2560&bih=954
https://st-paul-harley-davidson-bue...e-gauge-adapter-2003-2010-xb-1125-models-l19d
Doesn't come with a pressure gauge, so hit this link next. https://www.google.com/search?q=fue...n4vdAhVkmuAKHeT0ASAQ_AUICigB&biw=2560&bih=954
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That's a nice fuel tap. Well made by Kent Moore.
True confessions time--In this instance I am not going to do the fuel pump repair myself. There is a new small motorcycle shop in town, they do good work and are reasonable.
I am kind of busy these days and just want the work done. Reading about the monkey business to get the V-6 Mustang pump to work, chasing down fuel filters and O-rings it seems that, considering hourly rates and all, that best move is to purchase a new unit from SP Harley. The unit is complete and ready to go including O-rings. $360 is a heavy hit but makes sense against a used one from ebay or piecing one together and paying the shop rate to do that.
Yes I will make sure all the diagnostics are performed before tearing into it. I can always rebuild the old one later and have as a spare.
I am guessing 3 hours for the job.
Thanks again to all for the kind help--will let you know the outcome of all this.
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I am kind of busy these days and just want the work done. Reading about the monkey business to get the V-6 Mustang pump to work, chasing down fuel filters and O-rings it seems that, considering hourly rates and all, that best move is to purchase a new unit from SP Harley. The unit is complete and ready to go including O-rings. $360 is a heavy hit but makes sense against a used one from ebay or piecing one together and paying the shop rate to do that.
Yes I will make sure all the diagnostics are performed before tearing into it. I can always rebuild the old one later and have as a spare.
I am guessing 3 hours for the job.
Thanks again to all for the kind help--will let you know the outcome of all this.
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njloco
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Not for nothing but, you could have figured this out four pages ago !
Well, Loco, sorry to appear insecure but frankly I was stumped for awhile. Actually all the results are not in yet so still some mystery. Stranded on the side of a very busy road not understanding what is wrong was very stressful for me. Sorry I am not a tough guy like some. Even fellow forum guys had different opinions--check the grounds, could be this could be that. I decided it was fuel related and have had some support for that theory. Reading and understanding as much as I can on the subject trying to get a handle on all the permutations. All new terrain for me.
I will let you know the outcome when I know it.
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I will let you know the outcome when I know it.
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Take a deep breath. Possibly a time out in a safe zone. All better now. Ok.
Well, insults from the peanut gallery not withstanding, I will give you a report on the Uly. One month later, back on the road.
Yes, I farmed out the work. Yes, it took forever. Yes, I replaced the entire fuel pump. Yes, it cost a bundle. Yes, the fuel pump per se was not the problem, the problem was the pressure regulator, or rather the filter screens on the pressure regulator--totally plugged with some black sandy gunk.
Small local startup shop, nice people but growing pains -- anyway bike now happening, do not know if I will get a trip in this fall or not.
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Yes, I farmed out the work. Yes, it took forever. Yes, I replaced the entire fuel pump. Yes, it cost a bundle. Yes, the fuel pump per se was not the problem, the problem was the pressure regulator, or rather the filter screens on the pressure regulator--totally plugged with some black sandy gunk.
Small local startup shop, nice people but growing pains -- anyway bike now happening, do not know if I will get a trip in this fall or not.
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the problem was the pressure regulator, or rather the filter screens on the pressure regulator-
there is NO such thing. would be confusing to readers not familiar with these pumps.
upwind from the pump there is a "sock" style filter....downwind from the pump there is an automotive style inline filter. there is NO filter attached to or related to the pressure regulator. period.
there is NO such thing. would be confusing to readers not familiar with these pumps.
upwind from the pump there is a "sock" style filter....downwind from the pump there is an automotive style inline filter. there is NO filter attached to or related to the pressure regulator. period.
Well, Lunatic, right away one sees the advantage of doing one's own work. I would not be spewing off, or passing on, inaccuracies--so my bad. Anyway, I think the dirty filter(s) part is accurate.
Which reminds me to collect up the old pump tomorrow. I want to trust these vendors but there are a few things that make me wonder about them, besides the fact that they took forever.
As usual, thanks for your skill/knowledge set.
I suppose the fix is to filter the fuel before it goes into the tank--not an easy thing. On the boats, back in the day we used an old felt hat to run the fuel through--amazing the crud that comes from the storage tanks.
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Which reminds me to collect up the old pump tomorrow. I want to trust these vendors but there are a few things that make me wonder about them, besides the fact that they took forever.
As usual, thanks for your skill/knowledge set.
I suppose the fix is to filter the fuel before it goes into the tank--not an easy thing. On the boats, back in the day we used an old felt hat to run the fuel through--amazing the crud that comes from the storage tanks.
Opto
All,
Seems to be all happening once again in Uly land. Last night I got all paranoid and started thinking the Bike Shop had cleaned or changed the filters only and kept the same old pump and stuff. I paid a good chunk of $ in advance. Anyway, I went to the shop and sure enough they had all the old parts. Good to have my faith Not Shattered. Weird to get weird and thinking about small claims court and getting ripped off etc.
So I paid for the spendy pump from SP Harley, and the shop charged me 3.5 hours for the pump change out etc. plus included and oil/filter change. So there it is.
Tomorrow looks to be a good day so I will put 80+ miles on and hope for the best.
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Seems to be all happening once again in Uly land. Last night I got all paranoid and started thinking the Bike Shop had cleaned or changed the filters only and kept the same old pump and stuff. I paid a good chunk of $ in advance. Anyway, I went to the shop and sure enough they had all the old parts. Good to have my faith Not Shattered. Weird to get weird and thinking about small claims court and getting ripped off etc.
So I paid for the spendy pump from SP Harley, and the shop charged me 3.5 hours for the pump change out etc. plus included and oil/filter change. So there it is.
Tomorrow looks to be a good day so I will put 80+ miles on and hope for the best.
Opto
Good Luck Opto! I hope the test ride goes well:angel:
Hey, Cooter,
Yep, made it there and back again--almost 100miles. Just purred along. The problem was dirty fuel filters, but I think the actual pump got damaged from overwork, also. So back on the road and where to go...?
Right now it is seriously chilly, loving the heated grips and my Road Crafter suit.
Would like to find a fuel filter that I can put in the fill zone to try and keep crud out of the system. Any ideas?
Glad your trip went well and you finally got that marionberry pie. My local had some homemade marionberry pie just the other day
Take all care,
Opto
Yep, made it there and back again--almost 100miles. Just purred along. The problem was dirty fuel filters, but I think the actual pump got damaged from overwork, also. So back on the road and where to go...?
Right now it is seriously chilly, loving the heated grips and my Road Crafter suit.
Would like to find a fuel filter that I can put in the fill zone to try and keep crud out of the system. Any ideas?
Glad your trip went well and you finally got that marionberry pie. My local had some homemade marionberry pie just the other day
Take all care,
Opto
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I do love pie. Especially fond of Rhubarb pie.
Outlaw.
Outlaw.
njloco
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Google, Ani's Raw Food Desserts, amazingly fantastic !
Loco, Lunatic, Outlaw and Cooter,
Well, I am enjoying how the conversation morphed from clogged fuel filters to yummy pies. I am inviting you all to a pie fest, with Grilled NY steaks etc. next Spring--
Location to be determined but Crater Lake sounds good.
I have one spare bike to loan out.
Opto
Well, I am enjoying how the conversation morphed from clogged fuel filters to yummy pies. I am inviting you all to a pie fest, with Grilled NY steaks etc. next Spring--
Location to be determined but Crater Lake sounds good.
I have one spare bike to loan out.
Opto
