Wheelies

[lifeisafractal]

Is the S easier to wheelie then the Scg? I've think I've seen that mentioned before, but I can seem to figure out why taller suspension would make it easier. Also, I have an Scg, no problem power wheelie in fist, not happening in second w/o some preloading.

 

[delta one]

Yes the S is easier to wheelie

It's a matter of leverage
The same reason people lower a drag bike (or at least a big reason)

 

[upthemaiden]

That's exactly what I just went through. I bought a 9sl(9 version of the 12scg) and it was way too difficult to wheelie for a 984cc bike. I just put the normal S suspension on and it made a world of difference. The taller suspension means a higher center of gravity, so it's easier to shift the weight off of the front wheel.

 

[safteyfirst]

Put your butt a couple inches back from normal. Accelerate in 1st to 3000-3500 rpm, romp the go stick and blip the clutch. It will wheelie. Don't look left or right in the beginning and don't worry if all you see is handlebars and airbox. It takes a shit load of effort to loop it out. My 2cents = sit down wheelies look cooler. And don't worry about looking dumb when you miss it, I do it all the time and then pretend like I just wanted to accelerate fast anyways! The only time its embarrasing is when you miss 1st to 2nd and find neutral which results in very high revs, slamming the nose down and sometimes feet off pegs with the bike slappin the piss out your nuts left to right as you try to regain control before you hit your uncles Prius who you where trying to show off to start with. I don't know from experience.

 

[cb750]

Every time I get the front off the ground my feet come off the pegs and I grab the clutch.

 

[upthemaiden]

How do your feet come off of the pegs? Are they sliding backwards? Sounds like you either need to hold on tight to the frame with your knees, or if you have one of the normal S or SCG seats you can scoot your butt back into the lip on the back so it'll support your weight.

 

[delta one]

Every time I get the front off the ground my feet come off the pegs

I always found the stock pegs to be a bit slippery too especially with a race boot style tread (neary any A-star boot that isn't dirt or touring).
LSL footpegs will solve your problem, so will traction pegs if you can find any.

 

[cb750]

I've got Cycle Pirate pegs on it right now, and i'd prefer to have longer pegs that support my feet all the way across.

The bike is an '08 12 Scg with a Hawk pipe on it. It feels like it wants to power wheelie, but it never does. when spring comes I will log some data and try Tunerpro again.

I think my feet coming off the pegs is an "oh shit" reaction. I guess I'm scared of looping it. I've watched some wheelie videos, but I don't really know of a place nearby where I can practice without disturbing people.

 

[upthemaiden]

I've watched some wheelie videos, but I don't really know of a place nearby where I can practice without disturbing people.

It's a sad trade off of exhausts. They make your bike sound great, make you want to ride faster and goof off more, but if you're not looking to be completely obnoxious to everyone around you, you spend too much time just trying to keep your bike semi-quiet.

If you're still new to doing wheelies you're probably subconsciously throwing your weight forward or doing something else to keep the front wheel on the ground, even if you'd like it to come up. It's just a build in safety feature of your brain and I remember fighting with it pretty hard when I started to learn years ago. I haven't ridden a 12, but when I got my 9 it had the lowered suspension and it definitely made things a bit harder. Once I switched it to the normal S suspension my front end felt a lot lighter.

 

[migs16]

ok im running into a problem with my wheelies. every time i clutch up the bike goes up effortlessly but once the wheel is completely off the ground i hear like a bang and then once i come down the hole front end has some play in it and i always have to lift it and tighten it back down. Is there any way to avoid this?

 

[safteyfirst]

upthemaiden, My feet have come off the pegs forwards from putting the front end down too hard when missing a gear. Hell, maybe I'm too fat, I don't know.

 

[safteyfirst]

ok im running into a problem with my wheelies. every time i clutch

I think there is something wrong, missing, not tightened properly on your bike. I have beat the living snot out of my front end and replaced about half a dozen fork seals without ever tightening the head.

 

[delta one]

my first check would be steering head bearings.

 

[freak2180]

Im too fat to do wheelies

 

[cb750]

Yeah, probably a safety feature in my brain. Maybe im still in the mindset of wheelie-ing a pedal bike, you can just slide off the seat on to your feet if you think you are going too far up.

The hawk pipe supposedly has more torque than the sticker. It had a jardine on when I bought it.

Yes I know o am moving weight forward, I guess I am anticipating the extra throttle amdi lean forward to keep from yanking on the bars. (And my shoulders)

 

[anrkizm95]

 

[cb750]

watched that one... watched a few others...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqqVJmsF6hU&feature=fvst

 

[Eviltwins]

I have built hundreds of twin motors, the majority in Buells,otors and no stock 12 will wheelie in second seated.

1. More torque on the stem will make it more stable.
2. Lower preload in the back and more in the front will help.
3. Weight reduction is a good thing in the air.


The bike pictured is stripped of every ounce, punched to 1480CC, Water and O2 injection, lumpy cams, counterweights removed from the crank, hollow stator, and seeing 142HP on the rear and it barely pulls up seated in Second. I can pogo it up in 4th even but no stock 12 wheelies in second.

1.

 

[upthemaiden]

142hp and will barely pull up in 2nd??

I just found this video for the first time. It was pretty decent...

 

[anrkizm95]

if you say so.how much do you weight?