Wheelies

[GAXB9R]

Thought some of you would like that video.[cool]

 

[08levin]

Check out this explanation. Basically, the closer the center of mass is to the rear wheel (L), the less force is required to pull a wheelie. Also, as the height of the center of mass increases (H), the required force to raise the front wheel reduces as well. Of course these two need to be considered together, so rider position is still important. A heavy rider will likely increase the height of the center of mass (unless they are some squat machine with no upper body mass), but if they ride further forward, which increases L, the height difference could be cancelled out.

Taking the rider out of the equation, an S will wheelie easier than an Scg just due to the height difference.

Another variable I can see is suspension set up. If you have it really soft, then the bike is going to squat down and effectively reduce H, and increase the required force needed.

Wheelie calculations

 

[chevnut55]

Try riding a ducati 1098s wheelies just happen by accident. I let the cluth out a bit fast..wheelie
gas it a bit too much...wheelie
intersection green light...wheelie
turn around in traffic...wheelie
pass a car...wheelie
I only tryed 1 power wheelie like I used to do on my xb12r with mods that I could only get 1-2' for a 5-10', on the ducati doing 50 instantly came up to balencing point carmly and stable I rode it out 50'
I do not want to wheelie much..but this bikes adictive.

 

[rshepler217]

@BadS1 it is possible to preload a wheelie on an 03 xb9r. i do it to mine just about every day. only in 1st or 2nd though. if you want to do it in 3rd you do need the clutch. it may help that i am only 154lbs but it seems very easy to do on my xb9r.

 

[jafred]

I would not recommend power wheelies to anyone learning. High rpm = tiwtchy bike and the buells have a short balance point. You can huck yourself off the back in a hurry if your not carefull. Low rpm and clutch slip with a little gas.

 

[BuellRiderX]

Check out this explanation.  Basically, the closer the center of mass is to the rear wheel (L), the less force is required to pull a wheelie.  Also, as the height of the center of mass increases (H), the required force to raise the front wheel reduces as well.  Of course these two need to be considered together, so rider position is still important. A heavy rider will likely increase the height of the center of mass (unless they are some squat machine with no upper body mass), but if they ride further forward, which increases L, the height difference could be cancelled out.

Taking the rider out of the equation, an S will wheelie easier than an Scg just due to the height difference.

Another variable I can see is suspension set up. If you have it really soft, then the bike is going to squat down and effectively reduce H, and increase the required force needed.

Wheelie calculations

That is seriously over thinking it my friend. Best way to learn how to wheelie in my opinion is on a four stroke dirt bike. Controllable power with a longer wheel base.

Although it is funny how some of you guys can't power wheelie your 9s... I had a second generation SV650 which makes about the same power. Power wheelies in 1st no problem.

 

[konarider94]

you just need to yut-ugh to wheelie

 

[bobaganoosh]

i just got a 400ex 4 wheeler and i can wheelie that thing 1st through 5th gear, its a blast. Its alot easier than a bike though cause you dont have to be worried about going ove backwards, you just hit the grab bar, haha

 

[bobaganoosh]

o yea and if you really want to wheelie go get a cheap wheelchair. i got one in my basement and i just go down there and ride wheelies around. almost as fun as the bike

 

[Joe King]

I had an 1125r which would come up in 3rd off the throttle no problem! Remus powercone, hand made link pipe,K&N and a EBR race ecm.
Just keep klicking up the gears until there all gone, 6th gear wheelies are no problem on the 1125r.

 

[GAXB9R]

Got Drifts??[confused]

 

[Denman]

This may have been asked and answered but I didn't read through all 9 pages. But I'm scared when I clutch up to do a wheelie it puts too much stress on the belt and it's going to snap. What do you guys think?

 

[bobaganoosh]

dumping the clutch will stress the clutch not the belt. the belts are plety strong anyways

 

[newyorkbuell]

They are strong, till they snap just like mine did from constant clutch up wheelies. It took a few years to finally snap but it will, just buy a spare now lol

 

[Denman]

Ya mine snapped too, I want to wheelie so bad, but just scared of the damage I'd cause to the bike

 

[thewanmanrules]

My 2006 Uly will Wheelie in 1st and 2nd with no Clutch needed... Just twist and Lift... To get in 3rd... I just do the 2nd to 3rd... Gear Change...... then about 70/80mph... and 1/2 mile later... Set the Wheel back down ... [up]

 

[pamver]

so i'm gonne start to try some power wheelies with my xb12sx so:
1gear, speed up to 4500rpm, let off the throttle and than...
100% full open throttle???
or is that to mutch and will i pull it over???

 

[freak2180]

Have fun replacing your front isolator, neck bearings, and fork seals when they eventually take a crap on you..... All because you had to be cool.

 

[dannenvance]

Have fun replacing your front isolator, neck bearings, and fork seals when they eventually take a crap on you..... All because you had to be cool.

I'm with freak on this one. Wanna wheelie; get an $800 dirt bike.
Unless of course you don't mind sacrificing your Buell on the spare parts auction alter, in which case, can I have your handlebar top clamp?

 

[Rhino1]

Well, lets be honest here--carving corners, hard acceleration, and wheelies are a huge part of the grin factor when owning bikes like this. For most of us anyway. While I'm not saying that a half-mile wheelie at 100 MPH is good for you or your bike, I have to admit that lofting the front wheel has always been a part of the fun, stress relief I get from riding a bike. My first wheelie came before my first knee puck scrape--and while I am much more careful and conscientious now, I still have to honk a horn mono once on a while to maintain my sanity (ok, I cheat sometimes and use the clutch! LOL!).

OUr bikes are hooligan-inspired bikes, and I took a lot of inspiration from the great UK bike mags of the 80's/90's!

Now, having said all that, continuous hoisting of the front wheel, and doing it for any length of time, will eat up fork seals, wheel bearings, and ultimately, if you wheelie for too long, engines and hides... Whether or not its worth it to you is entirely your call... [cool]