Well, its official, my brother has a 2007 Suzuki GSX-R 750, and he smoked me like a pack of kools! His bike is all stock, and I have a 2003 XB9R with a race kit and modified air box. I thought for sure that I could at least beat him through the intersection, but no dice! Plus his bike handles as good if not better than mine, and I have race tuned the suspension. Well I guess I could look on the bright side, my insurance is cheaper!
Smoked by a GSX-R 750
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BuellPastor
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As for me, I don't really care. I've had some very fast bikes in the past, but I enjoy this one so much more. With my last bike, I was breaking the law by the time I got into the fun zone (in the bike's powerband) with this bike I have fun and stay within or at least fairly close to the speed limit.
I jst replaced a gsxr 750 with a xb9s, the gixxer was faster, but I dare you to have as much fun without going at least dubble the speed limits. if all you want is to go fast the gsxr is for you but if you have any style at all you may want to look elsewhere
I agree with BuellPastor, I had a gixxer 6 before this and my XB12 is WAY more fun for a number of reasons 1. it pulls hard off the line 2. I don't HAVE to break the law to have fun 3. Its a unuiqe bike 4. It has a Harley Engine 5. not everyone has one 6. its NOT japanese 7. its confidence insipring 8. I could prolly beat a japanese 600 off the line and to see his face would be priceless! Thats just the beginning of why I love it so much!
My hole shot is fine, the problem is I ride a 9 and it takes a bit to wind up, on the roll, I keep up with him for a bit, but then he is in his sweet spot, and its all over. With a 12 its a different story. Don't get me wrong, I am a Harley man to the bone, but compared to the XB series, the GSXR is a better bike all around. Your argument of style trumps all is the same one that AMC fans used with the Javilin.
Have you ever riden a 9? Do you think I just started riding? BTW the 750 is a 4 not a 6, and it has more power and torque than my 9. There is a reason that the 900 v-twins were put up against the 600cc 4-cylinder class, and not the 750 class.
GSXR:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Suzuki-GSX-R-Timeslip-11769.html
1/4 Mile ET: 9.799
1/4 Mile MPH: 138.270
1/8 Mile ET: 6.330
1/8 Mile MPH: 114.360
0-60 Foot ET: 1.507
XB12R:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Buell-Firebolt-Timeslip-12970.html
1/4 Mile ET: 12.096
1/4 Mile MPH: 112.950
1/8 Mile ET: 7.700
1/8 Mile MPH: 93.220
0-60 Foot ET: 1.942
Couldn't Find any official time slips for the 9, But its about 0.5 to 1 second slower than the 12.
Its not just Buells, Ducati runs its V-twins in the same classes. Hopefully the new V-twin Buell will be offering will be able to compete with the fours of the same cubic inch displacement.
As for the 750 not having as much off of the line, the 9 has a shorter stroke than the 12, this equals less low end torque, go ride a 9 and you will feel the difference. It may wind faster than a 12, but then again the 750 with its shorter stroke and lighter weight internals will wind way faster and higher than the 9, hence the 13,000 redline vs 6500
GSXR:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Suzuki-GSX-R-Timeslip-11769.html
1/4 Mile ET: 9.799
1/4 Mile MPH: 138.270
1/8 Mile ET: 6.330
1/8 Mile MPH: 114.360
0-60 Foot ET: 1.507
XB12R:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Buell-Firebolt-Timeslip-12970.html
1/4 Mile ET: 12.096
1/4 Mile MPH: 112.950
1/8 Mile ET: 7.700
1/8 Mile MPH: 93.220
0-60 Foot ET: 1.942
Couldn't Find any official time slips for the 9, But its about 0.5 to 1 second slower than the 12.
Its not just Buells, Ducati runs its V-twins in the same classes. Hopefully the new V-twin Buell will be offering will be able to compete with the fours of the same cubic inch displacement.
As for the 750 not having as much off of the line, the 9 has a shorter stroke than the 12, this equals less low end torque, go ride a 9 and you will feel the difference. It may wind faster than a 12, but then again the 750 with its shorter stroke and lighter weight internals will wind way faster and higher than the 9, hence the 13,000 redline vs 6500
buell isn't about going fast, it's about the fun & the corners...
i can bet you that the buell will overtake the gsxr in a long corner.
i can pull away from every jap when cruising @ 3000/4000rpm...but he will overtake when i'm shifting.
also, don't go comparing a race 4cyl with the streetracer the xb9 is.
i can bet you that the buell will overtake the gsxr in a long corner.
i can pull away from every jap when cruising @ 3000/4000rpm...but he will overtake when i'm shifting.
also, don't go comparing a race 4cyl with the streetracer the xb9 is.
Its true LeFox, it not about speed, its about 1. useable power 2. corners 3. just plain fun... all of these combined make my XB12 5 times the bike my Gixxer ever was!
You ever been in love with a bike before? LOL
The Japanese bikes have never made sense to me...a track bike with a race bike seating position made street legal on roads with speed limits, seems odd! I'm not going to deny it, I loved the pull of my Gixxer above 4000rpm, but I think I love my Buell more because its power all the way through!
You ever been in love with a bike before? LOL
The Japanese bikes have never made sense to me...a track bike with a race bike seating position made street legal on roads with speed limits, seems odd! I'm not going to deny it, I loved the pull of my Gixxer above 4000rpm, but I think I love my Buell more because its power all the way through!
I have ridden them both, The GSX-R 750 is a better all around bike in my opinion, even in 100% stock form, it beats out MY modded XB9R in all aspects, handeling, acceleration, top speed, (even though I don't even come close on the GSXR, only went 110, on accident, and have hit the rev limiter on the Buell while merging on the freeway)and comfort, with the same rider...ME. I had to extend the pegs and buy the "touring" seat for my Buell so I could stand to ride for more than 30 miles, as I stand 6'1" I love my Buell, but I am not going to make excuses for it either, its slower, heavier, and parts are more rare than for the GSX-R 750 plain and simple, but most of all, I have to drive 30 miles to a dealership that may or may not have a part I need, the suzi doesn't have that problem, I think its only two blocks to the nearest cycle gear. Love your bike, and ride it, just don't make excuses for it.
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The one thing that is wrong with the jap bikes is that they inspire "over confidence". They are easy to ride, which is why people have so many accidents on them. The Buells on the other hand you have to "learn to ride". My Buell reminds me of sitting atop a gyroscope, the bike wants to stay upright, while cornering it takes a great deal of body shifting and speed control to get the bike to lay down. Where on a jap bike, a slight lean is all it takes for the same result. Which is why im saying that jap bikes make people over confident. They take corners way too fast thinking that the bike can do it, but the lack of feedback proves otherwise and they end up in a low slide. Where on a Buell the feedback is awesome [up]. You feel the road like no other, you know straight away if you are coming in to a corner too hot.
if your buell handles worse than the gixxer, your setup is wrong...azsnow said:
looks like you bought the wrong model...azsnow said:
of all my bikes, the buell gives me the most comfort...
longest run: 13hours of riding (with a few toilet/drink brakes) and no hastle/pain what so ever.
slower...depends in what. the buell is faster & beter in what it's made for...azsnow said:
you knew that before you bought one...azsnow said:
some times the jap bikes do feel like they are going faster, but in the apex of a corner look down at the speedo and I think you will be surprised how fast you are actually going compared to the jap bikes! over confidence is right, just sitting on one makes you feel faster (but not go faster) it is the opposite with the buell, it takes effort so you feel slower than you actually are
plus, if you compare dynos of the 2 stock bikes you make WAY more power until you have to shift! @ 2000rpm you are already at 45ft tq, the gsxr750 is @ about 30. he wont even get to 45ft until around 4500rpm when you make close to 58ft and when you peak at around 80hp @7500rpm he is only at 65hp. at this point you shift and he goes on to make over 130hp at 12500rpm. you should be able to be faster than him until that shift! and in the twistys you have the advantage because you just pick a gear and go
