Dual visor helmets

[wr5757]

Yes, they do pass those standards, however those are the minimum standards that need to met.

 

[Alfatango1]

Yes, they do pass those standards, however those are the minimum standards that need to met.

So then you're saying that Arai only meets the minimum too!? DOT actually has much more realistic testing than does Snell. ECE is a better test and DOT more closely matching that. Snell has recently updated their testing to be more realistic to the type of injuries and crashes that occur in the real world.
http://silodrome.com/snell-vs-dot-vs-ece-r22-05-helmet-standards-throwdown/

 

[sparky300]

I find the drop down visor on my EXO-1000 kind of annoying. It was cool when I bought it, but it doesn't come down far enough and has the nose cut out which isn't necessary unless you are Pinocchio. I usually opt for sunglasses. The reviews of the 3 new Shark models look promising, their drop down is supposed to cover the entire field of vision.

Thx Chipper, much appreciated feedback

I have to say, I'm surprised at the discussion this thread has generated, I never would have imagined it would have taken this route.

I agree that testing organizations have criteria for meeting minimum safety requirements, but it is only a pass/fail standard. I'm not familiar with the depth or scope any of the agencies performs on them, but if a helmet is listed as meeting any of the most current regulatory standards, it's good enough for me. And since the manufacturers don't boast that their equipment exceeds minimum standards but merely meets them, they are not saying that theirs is better than one or the other.

Like my dear old Dad said, "If you have a 10 dollar head, buy a 10 dollar helmet".

 

[Alfatango1]

but if a helmet is listed as meeting any of the most current regulatory standards, it's good enough for me.

Smart man! In this sue happy society we live in, if a company were to squeek by they would most likely get their ***** sued and be out of business. They want to stay in business not got out of business.

 

[netty2424]

I will say I am somewhat biased, I work for Alphamicron, the makers of e-tint.  However, I do believe our product has some advantages over whats out there.

So what are the pros and cons of your product? How much does it cost? Does it fit all helmets? Sorry, didn't feel like reading through the site!

The bell transitions is ok, but it is really slow.

I guess I don't know of situations in my riding where an immediate need to darken my visor would be necessary, that the transition from clear to dark wouldn't be enough to satisfy that need? But I'm always open to lean!

 

[MustangGuy]

Interesting thread. I have a scorpion exo and was swapping between the clear and the dark smoke shields for a while but that gets old quick. Also in bright sunlight - which is mostly what we have here in the desert - even the dark isn't as good as sunglasses when riding into the sun. Another thing that I've wondered is if the smoked shields are UV blocking. I wonder if there's a photochromic shield out there for scorpions. The electrochromic insert is also an interesting option. I would have to hear some feedback before I spend the money though.

Sparky, baking and typing has never worked out well for me either! [cool]

 

[christianmb]

I have a Caberg Ego (I bought it from the UK and had it shipped) www.caberg.com. It has the dual visors, and a "Sunroof". That is essentially why I bought it. It is ECE approved, and the ONLY complaint I have is that it is a little short front to back, but it is lighter than my KBC VR2 it replaced. I love it, considering. It is a little loud, but nowhere near unbearable, even with a Hawk pipe.

 

[bbletterin]

I have an HJC FS10 (discontinued now) but the inside visor is my favorite thing about the helmet. It works for sun and at slower speeds allows you to open main sheild for hot stop light to stop light rides.Beets carrying sun glasses.

 

[wr5757]

So what are the pros and cons of your product? How much does it cost?  Does it fit all helmets? Sorry, didn't feel like reading through the site!

The pros of the system are Speed and Control.

The e-tint visor insert is an extremely fast system. It changes from light to dark and dark to light in a couple milliseconds. Photochromics take about 15 seconds to fully darken and up to 3-4 minutes to go back to clear.
If you were to ride on a sunny day and go into a tunnel with the photochomic, the tunnel and tinted shield would be extremely dark and difficult to see, with the e-tint, it would change tint instantly upon entering the tunnel.

Photochromics are dependent on UV light to activate. There is no control. The e-tint can be set into a manual mode or automatic mode. Meaning you can push a button to instantly turn the tint on and off at your command, or put it in automatic mode where it will adjust to the light as you ride.

We make a universal fit insert and an Arai specific insert. The universal fits most helmets, the only ones I know for sure that we do fit are the HJC-RPS10 and the Shark Evoline helmets.

The cons of the system are that it operates off of a battery and it will need charged from time to time. It charges via a micro usb cord (which is used for most cell phones ect) Fully charges in a hour and gets you 25-55 hours (depending on the model) of tinted use before it needs recharged.

It also has a slight base tint in it's light state. I believe the transmission window is from 70%-25%. Where dark sunglasses are aprox 20% transmission.

The system also has a fantastic anti-fog embedded into the plastic, and our next generation AX-11 (Which we will be releasing in November) will be transferable from visor to visor. Actually we may be looking for a couple beta-testers in the near future.

Current versions retail for $119 (MX-8) and $149(AX-10)

Hope that answers all the questions.